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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 30, 2009 - 12:58pm PT
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"Brawn edit: We're trying to run you and Dill into the unemployment line, of course!" Ha ha ha!!
Of course, that will NEVER happen.
C'mon Werner, you can read and understand as well as anyone.
What is a "so called" accident anyway?
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rhyang
climber
SJC
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Jul 30, 2009 - 02:09pm PT
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I pledge Aleisha to the slag
Of the United States of Bulgaria
And to the Republicans for Richard stands
One naked undergarment
Invisible man
With Liberace and puffed rice for all.
:)
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Bullwinkle
Boulder climber
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Jul 30, 2009 - 02:21pm PT
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yes the safety check is a very important thing, I do safety checks/meetings constantly. I spend alot of money on safety equipment and if i don't always check it, then, well, I just don't feel, safe. . .hooray for safety checks/meetings. . .in fact i'm going to do one, or two, right now. . .
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 31, 2009 - 10:23am PT
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Hooray for Bullwinkle!!
Although I can't exactly tell whether you're pulling our a leg
just a little bit or not.
I don't think so.
Go forth and try to keep our partners alive.
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 3, 2009 - 10:39am PT
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Huge Rock Pitches Off In Eldo with a party below.
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=918789
More People Climbing Every day.
More Inexperienced People Climbing. (Not pointing at the Eldo guys)
Looks like we may be in line for MORE bad news every year, not less.
MAKE A BIGGER EFFORT NOT TO CLIMB UNDERNEATH OTHER PARTIES, ESPECIALLY WHERE THERE IS "KNOWN" LOOSENESS!!
(This is certainly not a new technique in climbing. Many of us have been practicing this one for decades.)
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elcap-pics
climber
Crestline CA
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Actually a good topic. I was as guilty as anyone in that I didn't check my friends knots etc like I should have. Although I dont climb that much anymore I have gotten into the habit of looking at everyones tie in to the harness and belay. I just give it a look without saying anything about it out loud. It is a good idea that I was negligent about in the past. Now I do it every time. Thanks for the reminder!
Tom Evans
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philo
Trad climber
boulder, co.
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Survival, I am all in favor of what your trying to accomplish here. I wish folks wouldn't get so hung up on semantics. Most accidents can and should be avoided.
I am always on the alert. In the mountains I not only keep an eye on the weather but I am on constant alert for any objective hazard that can be mitigated. Additional to regularly scanning tie ins an anchors I carefully watch the eyes of who ever I am with. The eyes never lie. Stress shows up in them first. Particularly when I led groups I always kept track of everyone. At the crags I quietly scan everyone. And I do speak up when foolishness appears. Otherwise it is just a quiet vigilance. But I grew up as a mentored trad rat. And BITD we 'learned' the ropes and awareness necessary to survive. For me the bigger concern is the hoards of tenderfoot gym climbers venturing out to the crags with no background information to draw from. I think, without proper guidance, the frequency of "accidents" will increase. We as a community can help instill a 'common sense' understanding to future climbers.
As to leaving a note on the car I have one word of advise; PENCIL.
More than once I have returned to find the ink of a note bleached out completely. And that even though the notes were folded inward. Pencils won't fade away like that.
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 4, 2009 - 05:48pm PT
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Tom and Phil, Thanks guys.
With this smart *ss crowd around here, I was sure there would be some smack talk to go with this.
But the events of the past few months have made it so that most of the posts have been genuine, pro or con.
Some with a true rebel dislike of anything that smacks of conformity, which I understand, but it's mostly disagreement with the whole concept of "pledge".
But mostly it has been good feedback from quality, experienced people who are pretty bummed with the number of great guys we've seen pass this year.
Some may have been sheer freak moments, but as you said Phil, most are preventable.
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philo
Trad climber
boulder, co.
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Aug 10, 2009 - 03:26pm PT
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BUMP!!!
More tragic news!!!!!! Keep it smart out there!
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Ed Bannister
Mountain climber
Riverside, CA
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Aug 10, 2009 - 09:33pm PT
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bump
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rockermike
Trad climber
Berkeley
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looks like its time for another bump. forget the semantics; please be careful, and f*#k the fast and light stuff. I'm feeling really bummed right now.
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 11, 2009 - 02:50pm PT
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Well, this thread rears it's ugly head once again.
So don't take, make, or have anything to do with a pledge.
But please do everything that you can to insure that you and the ones you are climbing around are making preparations and evaluations. You know, get your shuns covered.
This was never meant to take the form of a piece of paper for people to sign. I'm sorry anyone took it that way. It was meant to raise our awareness in all areas of this beautiful, sometimes terrible game that we play.
We have had a fatality in almost every aspect this year.
Roped vs unroped
stone vs ice
You know what I mean.
My partner and I have not only been checking and rechecking our systems, but we have been getting more verbal in communicating this stuff to each other.
I also took a much more proactive stance when observing a couple of n00bs this year. Didn't get all righteous and preachy with them, but made some very friendly and pointed suggestions which they seemed to appreciate.
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 10, 2011 - 08:49pm PT
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Donini bump.
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