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Bertie
Trad climber
Sussex, England
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May 19, 2010 - 04:04pm PT
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Hi Tarbuster
Sorry about the delay- I think e mail must have got deleted by mistake.
Have another go or let me know through this forum and we can go from there.
THanks
Bertie
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Brock Wagstaff
Trad climber
Larkspur
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May 19, 2010 - 06:02pm PT
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Super Guides and two broken axes after a summer in the Alps, 1977. Those boots absolutely killed my feet, but we all used them for many years. Probably explains continuing foot problems!
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theskiguru
Mountain climber
Berkeley, CA
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May 20, 2010 - 01:32am PT
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They don't make 'em like they used to...thank god.
My first pair of SuperGuides was 1970, then a pair of Galibier double boots (Makalu?) in 1972, and I loved them, resoled them repeatedly. Galibier also made great 75mm ski boots that were superior to the early Asolo models. But in 1977 I got a pair of Galibier Super Guide Pro (blue plastic toe cap) from the Elephants Perch that I used for the next ten years (with Komito resoles).
So this thread was a real memory trip, but I couldn't believe that Pontvert still made a version of the Super Guide...I thought they went out-of-business with plastics. So I was amazed to find that the French outdoor retailer Aux Vieux Campeur still has them in all sizes for 315 Euro ($390USD).
Still the new lightweight yet stiff La Sportiva Trango or Scarpa Charmoz are preferable...lighter, dry, low maintenance, colorful(?)...do you remember how heavy and cold SuperGuides were when soaked wet? Have fun out there.
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bmacd
climber
Relic Hominid
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May 20, 2010 - 01:39am PT
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I pulled the trigger on a new pair of La Sportiva Nepal Evos 3 weeks ago and walked 20 km in them on the first outing 2 weeks ago. No blisters, amazing boots.
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Cordell
Mountain climber
Vancouver BC
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Aug 11, 2010 - 02:02am PT
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I have a noob question about the Galibier Super Guides...
I've been hiking in a pair of Meindl Super Perfekt. Love them and all, but they aren't the right boot for me. Something about them didn't quite fit, though I loved the stiffness, full leather and ruggedness of them.
What I gathered when I bought them is that they are a full shank boot, that being said, after 8 months of use, the toe area bent a little while trekking (which was fine with me and I wanted that to happen)
Now, I am not a vertical climber, I scramble at most and learning the ropes of mountaineering I just mostly like stiff boots to trek with with a heavy pack! (I know, somewhat sadistic...)
So I've been reading raves about these Galibiers, I'm wondering considering that I've used my Super Perfekts as trekking boots, could I use the Galibiers in the same manner?
I would want the boot to give just a little and bend a tad while walking. That's fine with me, I wouldn't want it to stay 100% stiff and immobile.
Thanks for all you guy's time!
C.
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RocketJ
Mountain climber
Dallas
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Jul 21, 2012 - 01:44pm PT
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I bought My Galibier Vercors boots in 1974 when I was 16 and have put well over 1,000 miles on them. My sons both climb and are into my retro gear. The old boots just returned from an 86 mile trek of Philmont NM. I was reluctant to let my 17 year old son take them from fear of him getting stranded with busted boots -but they are his favorite (over his new Vasques) and they fared well with only a little separation of leather at the top of the ankles. The souls are the original Galibier "M"s and the rubber is hard. I guess I will let him wear them until they fall apart - then have them bronzed!!
They are heavy but not as heavy as the Super Glides and were less expensive too. The Vercors they have only a partial steel shank vs full on the SGs which also have Norwegian welted lug-able? M soles - if my memory serves.
The big selling point was the one piece integrated tongue that with a short gaiter kept water, sticks and stones out. Your tracks always stood out with the M tread vs the ubiquitous Virbram clovers of the day.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Jul 21, 2012 - 02:26pm PT
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Hey Bertie!
I still want those Super Pro 42s.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jul 21, 2012 - 02:49pm PT
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I have a pair of size nineand a half (?) super guides that I would sell to someone with a sense of history. Any takers?
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Jul 21, 2012 - 03:15pm PT
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Super Guides are the Harley Davidson's of boots...Todd Gordon is right...They are chick magnets and pretty much a guaranteed get- laid wardrobe accessory especially if you wear them to the Village with Salewa Crampons and wool knicker socks...Chicks dig em....
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rockermike
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Jul 21, 2012 - 03:20pm PT
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^^^^^ I never got laid wearing my Super Guides (what was I doing wrong?) but then I never got laid period - so no surprise there. ha
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jul 21, 2012 - 03:24pm PT
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Never?
You need my boots!
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Jul 21, 2012 - 06:09pm PT
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I LOVED my Galibier boots.
Here is a drawing that I did as a teenager:
And here are my venerable Makalu double boots, still in great shape:
I took 'em to Denali (twice), and skied across the Sierra Nevada in 'em over 10 days during New Years' 1984 (on Ramer bindings).
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Jul 21, 2012 - 07:19pm PT
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Sierra Ledge Rat!
Lovely drawing with lots of soul.
Cordell:
Belated response, (just short of two years).
I'm wondering considering that I've used my Super Perfekts as trekking boots, could I use the Galibiers in the same manner?
Peutereys or Vercors would likely be a better choice, because a full steel shank (a la Super Guide) is all about edging and front pointing.
Not so great for hiking on dirt. ~Pretty good for hiking on snow.
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Mark Rodell
Trad climber
Bangkok
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Jul 21, 2012 - 10:54pm PT
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Anyone else own a pair of Lowa Triplex...heavy but warm and with a wide toe box...Of course I went plastic soon as they were available. The inner felt liner was a hoot, wore them as house booties.
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Jul 22, 2012 - 10:14am PT
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My pair, purchased in '77. I blew out the stitching on the seams because I was talus surfing all the time. :-(
I still have them though. I use Sportiva Malakus now.
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jstan
climber
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Jul 22, 2012 - 10:36am PT
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The one time I was abroad we were on a via Ferrata behind a line of people. Just in front of me was a little wisp of a lady wearing a pair of boots that probably weighed half what she weighed. She was having trouble, finally saying with great frustration
"there is no place to put my feet!"
I was tempted to tell her to burn those boots when she got home, but thought better of it.
Super Guides are just the ticket
when working around cholla.
Edit:
I've been hiking in a pair of Meindl Super Perfekt. Love them and all, but they aren't the right boot for me. Something about them didn't quite fit, though I loved the stiffness, full leather and ruggedness of them.
What I gathered when I bought them is that they are a full shank boot, that being said, after 8 months of use, the toe area bent a little while trekking (which was fine with me and I wanted that to happen)
Now, I am not a vertical climber, I scramble at most and learning the ropes of mountaineering I just mostly like stiff boots to trek with with a heavy pack! (I know, somewhat sadistic...)
So I've been reading raves about these Galibiers, I'm wondering considering that I've used my Super Perfekts as trekking boots, could I use the Galibiers in the same manner?
I would want the boot to give just a little and bend a tad while walking. That's fine with me, I wouldn't want it to stay 100% stiff and immobile.
Cordell ;
This is a political rant. Treat it as such.
You want a heavy boot because you are carrying a lot of weight. The part of the body constantly being accelerated and decelerated as you walk- are your feet. Carrying heavy weight is a drain on your energy in more ways than you know. Get ahold of Ray Jardine's "Beyond Backpacking". Ray started out as a climber but only later found out how he would make his greatest contribution. That's life. Read it. Then read it again.
If your function on a trip is as a pack animal to get a lot of needed gear to the base of a face - resign yourself to carrying weight. When doing something more sensible, set a maximum weight you will carry. Then stay well below that. Only if you are a huge person, let that maximum get over 25 pounds.
Remember this. On a hike if you find you don't have something
you don't need it, do you?
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