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Impaler

Trad climber

Munich

May 12, 2009 - 08:46am PT

Susan,

Do females like that actually exist? I've been on the lookout for one of those for a while, but my experience is quite opposite. I'd be happy to find one that has at least half the qualities that you describe. That's probably why I haven't been in a serious relationship for the last 3 years. Most chicks my age (25) are just too flaky and not dedicated enough to the sport. I'm always very flexible and willing to lead everything or swap leaders, go sport climbing or do some run-out climbing on gear, always happy to drive, etc. Yet, the only consistent women partners that I had in the last few years were a bit older than me. Is that because chicks my age just can't prioritize their lives and decide what's important for them? Or do they spend too much time partying?

Vlad
By the way, I'm still available.

happiegrrrl

Trad climber

New York, NY

May 12, 2009 - 09:03am PT

drljefe wrote: "I'm available.
"

This is you?

...Friends made an Appreciation Thread for you that didn't include stories of what an azz you are but they love you anyway?

.....See my post above "wanted: dirtbag climber.

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rockermike wrote: "In my humble experience a women will never hang (happily) with a man who makes less than she does nor a climbing partner who climbs lesser."

I admit that I couldn't deal with a climber guy who climbed less hard than me, but that's just about impossible to find.

I did climb with one once, but it was his 10 year old shot to hell 50M rope(there's a bawdy joke in there somewhere), pile o mismatched cams and slings bought on Ebay of the same vintage, along with that lesser ability, and the attitude that he knew what he was doing that received the "happiegrrl stamp of disapproval."

If a guy is mismatched in ability, I say - climb together a bit, and also with others that match each other better. You guys who lead 11's and date girls who never climbed, or can't follow you on sustained routes without kicking, screaming, crying and other emotional epics before getting hauled through do just that(at least the ones who have some semblance of happiness in their lives do). You would go crazy if every weekend it was the same 5.8 toprope setup. What would it be different for a woman?

As for money? Personally, again it would be hard for someone to make less than me and actually be employed, but I know the money aspect isn't the issue. It's the willingness to pull their own weight and share in the effort to fund an existence. NOT the ability to support me and fund MY existence. I have never dated a guy who had a lot of money, but I think it would be uncomfortable for me.

But a guy not willing to make the effort to share finances - THAT is a guy with a problem. I'm not talking about the scene where the guy is at home with the kids, maybe has a hobby sort of job that may or may not ever become lucrative, or is an artist/writer, and shares in the housekeeping details while the girl makes a decent living.

I'm talking about the guy who thinks his sole gift to the deal is his 50M rope(bawdy joke found!). AND he's got truly poor rope management skills. And maybe even is tying in with others....

Living off your girl's back....that's what pimps do.

graniteclimber

Trad climber

Nowhere

May 12, 2009 - 10:36am PT

"Nice troll. If finding a dedicated climber was your only criteria this would be cake. Like most women, however...there are far, far more criteria than that haha!"

Word.

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=743831

A store that sells new husbands has opened in New York City,
where a woman may go to choose a husband. Among the
instructions at the entrance is a description of how the store
operates: You may visit this store ONLY ONCE! There are six
floors and the value of the products increase as the shopper
ascends the flights. The shopper may choose any item from a
particular floor, or may choose to go up to the next floor,
but you cannot go back down except to exit the building!
So, a woman goes to the Husband Store to find a husband.

On the first floor the sign on the door reads: Floor 1 - These
men Have Jobs. She is intrigued, but continues to the second
floor, where the sign reads: Floor 2 - These men Have Jobs
and Love Kids. 'That's nice,' she thinks, 'but I want more.'
So she continues upward. The third floor sign reads:
Floor 3 - These men Have Jobs, Love Kids, and are Extremely
Good Looking. 'Wow,' she thinks, but feels compelled to keep
going. She goes to the fourth floor and the sign reads:
Floor 4 - These men Have Jobs, Love Kids, are Drop-dead Good
Looking and Help With Housework. 'Oh, mercy me!' she exclaims,
'I can hardly stand it!' Still, she goes to the fifth floor and the sign reads: Floor 5 - These men Have Jobs, Love Kids, are Drop-dead Gorgeous, Help with Housework, and Have a Strong Romantic Streak. She is so tempted to stay, but she goes to the sixth floor, where the sign reads: Floor 6 - You are visitor 31,456,012 to this floor. There are no men on this floor. This floor exists solely as proof that women are impossible to please. Thank you for shopping at the Husband Store.

To avoid gender bias charges, the store's owner opened a New
Wives store just across the street. The first floor has wives that love sex. The second floor has wives that love sex and have money and like beer. The third, fourth, fifth and sixth floors have never been visited.

bluering

Trad climber

Santa Clara, Ca.

May 12, 2009 - 11:46am PT

I can see how avid female climbers can get frustrated. I suppose, in terms of long-term relationships, it's all about what your priorities are. Is climbing the main priority or is a possible family-style lifelong relationship the priority?

For my wife it was the latter. She climbs occassionaly, is willing to belay me on trips with just the two of us, but she's in it for the camping, hiking, outdoors-she just ain't into climbing hard or pushing limits. I'm not either, really.

We just enjoy camping, hangin' with friends, climbing trips, and making babies to share our lives with.

To each her own though.

JLP

Social climber

The internet

May 12, 2009 - 11:55am PT

If you look hot in a sport bra and can climb 5.10, this conversation isn't relevent.

Daphne

Trad climber

Mill Valley, CA

May 12, 2009 - 12:44pm PT

Just wanted to publicly apologize to zip for dissing him. I am editing my original post. Carry on.

Melissa

Gym climber

berkeley, ca

May 12, 2009 - 12:49pm PT

I dated a couple of climber boys before I met J. They all are still my friends, and they all still outclimb me. And they were not that hard to find. At that time, like-minded platonic and female partners were a much trickier score.

I suspect that I might have a harder time finding compatable climbing partners that I would also consider dating if I was looking for them now 10 years older and at a different place in my life than I was back then. But I'm also a better climber, and I find that's a something that other people who actually want to go climb in the manner Sooze described tend to value.

Honestly, I don't know women (who are not beginners or looking for a guide) who can't find guys to climb with that climb as hard as them or who are as dedicated as they are. And among the single ladies who crank, the problem of having single partners want "more" when all they want to do is climb is more common among women by far. I have single friends who can't find someone that they can love, but the reason for that isn't that they keep meeting gumbies that misrepresent themselves.

I'm not sure that I know of any guys who have had a platonic female partner who outclimbed them slip by the wayside because she had feeling for him that he didn't share. Relationships that happened and ended notwithstanding.

climber

Cardiff by the sea

May 12, 2009 - 01:00pm PT

bluering wrote:

We just enjoy camping, hangin' with friends, climbing trips, and making babies to share our lives with

Dude that is freaking cool! These guys get it, and will probably last a lifetime with each other.

KlimbIn

climber

May 12, 2009 - 01:13pm PT

SMC ISO SFC.
Likes long trad routes; belaying for hours while partners works project; exploring new areas; dark forty car trips; Tries to avoid long walks on hot sandy soil and unplanned candlelight bivies. Seeks partner preferably with bigger rack.

susan peplow

climber

www.joshuatreevacationhomes.com

Topic Author's Reply - May 12, 2009 - 02:21pm PT

For all the SFC's out there, where you located Klimbln?

bluering

Trad climber

Santa Clara, Ca.

May 12, 2009 - 02:25pm PT

T2, thanks, a great life hangin' together raising the family is the goal.

Cheers!

EDIT: Klimbln, it would help if you indicated where you were...ya just never know what the power of ST can do.

merciless use of sarcasm and puns

climber

slums of London in 1929

May 12, 2009 - 02:32pm PT

I am on the 6th Floor, climb up!

Boltgrl

Ice climber

Winslow, AZ

May 12, 2009 - 03:03pm PT

i'd like to chime in, but i fear i am too jaded and depressed about this issue...

Daphne

Trad climber

Mill Valley, CA

May 12, 2009 - 03:07pm PT

Boltgrl, maybe it would help to get it off your mind? I'd like to know, but perhaps that is because misery sometimes loves company?

drljefe

climber

Old Pueblo, AZ

May 12, 2009 - 03:17pm PT

Did I hear someone say misery?

susan peplow

climber

www.joshuatreevacationhomes.com

Topic Author's Reply - May 12, 2009 - 03:19pm PT

Yeah, Boltgrl knows what we're talking about. Tell them how you have to swim in the kiddy pool to even find a date to climb with.

Hey Russ, I love you.