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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Mar 20, 2009 - 12:01am PT
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I'm thinking that with the wood paneling vibe that what Blue needs are some Elvis-on-Black-Velvet paintings on the walls.
Sounds like a trip to Olivera Street is called for.
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Zander
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Mar 20, 2009 - 12:08am PT
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"The bookcase project hasn't really started yet."
Wimp! Start cutting some wood.
Zee Wood
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 20, 2009 - 12:12am PT
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Zander I had to build a new bench first and had to do some routing practice by making a slotted drawer.
That's done.
The wife wants a childproof outdoor garden chemicals-type cabinet. That will be done tomorrow, I swear.
After that it's the bookcase.
Edit: Yeah, tiger 'climbing wall' was actually purchased from my German bud before he went back to Germany. He gave me the whole rig for 50 bucks!
Cool guy.
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pip the dog
Mountain climber
planet dogboy
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Mar 20, 2009 - 12:26am PT
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i just found this thread and am diggin it. much quality advice.
i especially like Dingus' post [Jan 23, 2009, 01:10pm PT]
to wit:
> If you're going to go to the trouble of making it by hand
> Bluey, find some awesome wood to work with.
amen. i learned this (the hard way) with both early attempts at furniture and my first attempt at rebuilding a car with a blown engine (and hence save thousands).
bought an '81 mazda 626 (one of the very few RWD rice burners, ever) in very good shape but with a seized engine. i spent endless, truly endless, hours taking it apart into teeny pieces then putting it back together. lucky for me i had an elderly neighbor who was a master machinist andd mechanic (the real thing) -- else i would have ripped both my arms off and never finished it.
i worked hard at it -- it became an obsession every weekend for many months. and finally got it 'just so'. and in the ended up with ... a mazda. oopsy. next time i went at a bmw 320i with a blown engine. better idea.
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DMT,
> My Pop had a great idea - this is a tad tougher on the west
> coast (not enough old buildings). He bought a shitload of old > pew boards from an old church that was getting torn down.
even on the left coast, this can be done. but word is out and it is getting competitive. find some old guys 'in the know' and wake up early on saturday and buy them all the pie and coffee they can swallow.
my grandfather who raised me was a master cabinetmaker -- the real thing, from rural ireland where it took 15 years of 70/hr weeks to be even considered for that formal title (and even with that, most didn't get it).
his rule for me when i was a twerp working in his shop was that i was not allowed to do anything with a power tool until i could first do it with hand tools. hated it at the time, i genuflect when i think of it now.
so i say forget the power tools. your cabinets will look great, and you can take genuine pride in them -- and you'll have them done by about 2017.
if you were to allow yourself just one power tool, get a quality EVS router of about 2.5hp and make a stout and square router table for it. you can do anything with that set up.
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Strider was right: think jigs. sketch jigs. dream jigs. the right jig makes the impossible suddenly easy (and makes you feel like a fookin' genius).
Tolman (who i almost always agree with) was, OTOH, with respect, ALL WRONG on McBeath Hardwoods in Berkley. the managers there are complete scumbags. if i wasn't the law-abiding and morally sound guy i am, i'd have burned that place down long ago. avoid that outfit at all costs.
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DMT,
> My brother made some movable bookcases and then couldn't get
> them out the damn door hahahahahahah!
yeah, i made a drift boat in a buddy's basement one long MT winter, many years ago. word is, it's still there...
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a final thought. my grandfather used to say "if there is a nail or a screw in it, it isn't woodworking -- it's carpentry."
fwiw,
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 20, 2009 - 12:32am PT
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pip, yeah, the drawer I made is screw/nail free, and the bookcase will be too.
The outdoor patio one is 'screwed' sides. Glued top, bottom.
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pip the dog
Mountain climber
planet dogboy
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Mar 20, 2009 - 12:45am PT
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bluering,
> pip, yeah, the drawer I made is screw/nail free, and
> the bookcase will be too.
Saint Jamesy Ruddy of Galway is surely smiling upon you.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Topic Author's Reply - May 19, 2009 - 06:52pm PT
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Update...workshop (shelves on the bench ready for linseed/beeswax oil rub). That's the 1/4" Mahogany back on the right side of the pic.
Here are my sides with the top/bottom in the front too.
Question; I f*#ked up and had to cut to different shelf spacings. How do I make it look like a non-accident and instead, decorative. I was thing of putting a darker--stained piece of wood (removable) in the unused shelf slots. What do y'all think? After the shelves go in, there will be removable molding that holds the shelves in, another dilemma, best way to make them easily adjustable.
This is the finish I chose... http://www.triedandtruewoodfinish.com/owf.htm
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Topic Author's Reply - May 19, 2009 - 07:40pm PT
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Warbler, I'm going with the Dado style shelves obviously...they're cut already! The shelves will be mostly permanent. I plan on having shelves adjustable to accomodate newer books that won't fit existing genre. Some shelves will be history, some fiction, climbing books, etc... Sometimes you get a classic climbing book that's 13" and my shelves are roughly 12" spaced. The bottom-most shelf will be an enclose cabinet.
I plan on having 10"x1/2" shaped, colored, decorative inserts for the unused shelf rails. I'll use molding to hold everthing in place from sliding out...maybe. Maybe something that picks up a brace from the sides that is fixed by a removable wooden latch or plug.
It's hard to describe my thoughts w/o pics....
Ikea is plywood for yuppies. I was trying to do better with quality materials.
Lemme try to sketch something up of what I'm thinking...
You could fill your dados with contrasting hardwood and epoxy and sand them flush. The hole pattern might not harmonize with what you've already cut though, and you might have to cut and fill some more to make it look right. You could cut and fill some dados in the shelves the same way with the detail showing on the outer edge.
I think that's what I'm talking about. I don't have all the lingo down yet.
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