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Stonecowboy2001
Trad climber
Livermore, CA.
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May 25, 2005 - 08:31pm PT
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there is some info aka folklore provided by lynn hill in the national geographic 'adventure' issue april 2002
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Licky
Social climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - May 25, 2005 - 08:55pm PT
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Yeah, Pam is in route to her place. When she gets home she's going to try to contact Lynn.
National Geographic did an article on it as well back then.
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Russ Walling
Social climber
Bishop is DEAD, long live JT
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May 25, 2005 - 09:11pm PT
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As I remember, the plane took off from Yosemite West and was flying a big loop back to Yosemite West just to fool the FAA, DEA, NPS, CHP, SPCA and all the rest. Seemed to work as nobody would suspect this. All the weed was grown up on Michaels Ledge and Lay Lady Ledge and was moved by bicycle up to the West for packaging. This might be the first time the truth has ever been written. I hope it does not get anyone in trouble.
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Licky
Social climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - May 25, 2005 - 09:12pm PT
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The biggest problem was that the bikes weren't registered
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Russ Walling
Social climber
Bishop is DEAD, long live JT
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May 25, 2005 - 09:15pm PT
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I think all the bike registration was in the black book. This will be a tough one to sort out. What is the statute of limitations on bike registration? Plus, I bet a few of those bikes were stolen from the Ice Cream Stand at the lodge. Hmmmmm....
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Licky
Social climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - May 25, 2005 - 09:26pm PT
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You are the only one outside of those inside that knew about the SPCA. Amazing details are being revieled. I'm hanging around for more.
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Licky
Social climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - May 25, 2005 - 09:35pm PT
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We worried that we didn't have a license for the 1,500 lamas that were going to be used to outpack the shredded wheat rolls. The plan was to air drop them the next morning in packs of six...Lama six packs!
Now I'm starting to do this stuff too!
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WBraun
climber
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May 25, 2005 - 10:33pm PT
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I saw the whole thing unravel from the very, very begining before anybody out there knew anything. But I'm not talking until I get ok from the original guys ........and that's that. Actually the original crew should do the talking if anybody. I wouldn't be throwing peoples names around here either, just bad style unless you were there.
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Ballaroama
Trad climber
so.cal
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May 25, 2005 - 10:49pm PT
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I was there from the very begining and the crew that you think were the first to see and remove anything were NOT the usual suspects posted above. And I would have agree with Werner, don't post names because it's really lame, hot rats eat 44 bullets for breakfast.
Besides the fact that there were many more players than even the players could imagine, parts of the story should not ever be published.
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Licky
Social climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - May 26, 2005 - 02:45am PT
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I can appreciate a little help here, but if you notice, I've not asked for any names on the thread. Only via PM or phone.
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Licky
Social climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - May 26, 2005 - 03:04am PT
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I think maybe I should have changed my nic to "Ladle" for stirring up so much...uh...stuff.
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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May 26, 2005 - 03:34pm PT
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The incident inspired fiction beyond Largo's "premise" and the awful Cliffhanger. Jeff Long's fantastic (literally) novel Angels of Light, and the Nevada Barr mystery High Country, come to mind. Other examples?
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Licky
Social climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - May 26, 2005 - 08:18pm PT
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I've only told this to one other guy so far. Anyone know the reason why the Park Service decided to not wait until the lake thawed to go up and do recovery?
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Licky
Social climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - May 26, 2005 - 10:16pm PT
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Ok...here's the story. It turns out that the dive shop in Fresno called up a guy in Yosemite and said, "Hey...ya know we got guys down here that want to rent out just about everything we have!"
Dead of winter too. So the Rangers scooted up to the lake using a chopper.
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nerdie
Ice climber
sacramento
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May 26, 2005 - 10:26pm PT
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30 years later I cant imagine anyone going to jail unless a more serious crime was involved other than distributing drugs and destroying peoples lives to turn a quick buck because one was too lazy to get a real job. Come on, a good report of the story would be interesting to read. Everyone knows there are people in all walks of life who try to cut corners and make a quick buck. If theyre afraid of being exposed as such maybe they should have thought twice before doing it. I cant wait for the book Licky! Good luck! Lets see who out there got their start the good old fashioned way, through Illegal activities!
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Licky
Social climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - May 26, 2005 - 10:31pm PT
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Nerdie, don't be so quick to jump. (no pun intended). So far over half a dozen people have agreed to tell their stories so we can publish this book. Pam and I will be telling the entire story about how the plane got to that point, the gang that were there then will tell theirs, and we'll also tell about what went on after the crash as far as the investigation, lawsuits, and such.
To be honest, most have stepped forward with a hell of a lot of enthusiasm. No one seems to be holding back. When I post some of the things that I do, its to let people know that I'm not blow'n smoke here.
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nerdie
Ice climber
sacramento
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May 26, 2005 - 11:10pm PT
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I seriously hope you get a good book out of.
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Licky
Social climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - May 28, 2005 - 02:13am PT
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So far there are almost a dozen people that have agreed to interviews. The stories from many have been absolutly enlightening, not to mention funny as hell. I appreciate everyone that is coming forward, I'm sure more will in the next few weeks.
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qt
Mountain climber
psg, ak
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May 30, 2005 - 03:44am PT
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Rick- It was fun talking about this with you tonight.
Something good comes from everything.
From the devastating tragedy of Pam loosing her husband (and you your friend), came a summer of wealth and good spirits in the valley. It warms me that she (and you) can now write a book, and then perhaps close another volume in the encyclopedia of healing.
This book is a noble effort, and I encourage people to contribute.
That summer in the valley was one of my best. Half Dome with Mark. The river. Ballaroama and WB, I think we shared some happy ropes too. Bouldering with Yabo. And my friend who was on the initial find, but whom I wasn't to climb with until a year later in another state- we then realized we had honored the crashweed together a lot in C4. With Yabo, of course.
But both of the latter have long since deceased. They are missed. Still, I can even now conjure an image of Yabos bizarre fascial contortions while he cranked some hard boulders; the sound of pine needles crunching as he decks. Back when "spotters" were the guys who sat rolling, rather than holding their arms up under guys' butts as in these days.
This should be a good book, lots of input from those involved I hope.
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Licky
Social climber
California
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Topic Author's Reply - May 30, 2005 - 04:02am PT
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qt, yep, gotta agree. Thanks for taking the time to call. It was, as it has been with all the other calls, an eye opener. I love it!
Stay tuned...
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