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hoipolloi
climber
A friends backyard with the neighbors wifi
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guess GPA will continue being an eerie place to be and climb..
are those new boulder problems? The 'new' curry boulders. whos bagging the FA's?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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"are those new boulder problems? The 'new' curry boulders. whos bagging the FA's? "
that's a damn good point.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Glad I wasn't on the Ledge Trail! Fall is actually my favorite time to hike it -- or maybe I should say was my favorite time. Pretty sobering pictures.
Looks like Ice Age, et al., may be subject to some variation now. At least these rockfalls were pretty far to the west of normal Apron climbing.
Thanks for the posts.
John
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squishy
Mountain climber
sacramento
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I was thinking of doing the Ledge trail this past weekend, I've never been up there, looks fun. Glad I stayed away, I thought it would be a bad time considering the major weather change that rolled through and went climbing instead...
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spyork
Social climber
A prison of my own creation
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I climbed up to Point Beyond a couple weeks ago, so was a bit disturbed when I saw this thread. But after looking at the pictures, I wasnt even close to the rockfall area. So I will go back again when I get the chance.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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sounds kinda scary to me.
Associated Press
Wednesday, October 8, 2008
2nd rock slide reported in Yosemite National Park
YOSEEMITE NATIONAL PARK, Calif. (AP) - A second rock slide in two days struck cabins and knocked down trees Wednesday in Yosemite Valley, according to witnesses. Officials have not confirmed any injuries. The slide happened shortly after 7 a.m., park spokesman Erik Skindrud told KCRA-TV in Sacramento. He said officials have gone to the area to evaluate any potential damage. Witnesses told The Associated Press the slide toppled trees and hit some tent and wooden cabins near Curry Village amphitheater. The witnesses also said some people appeared to be injured. Tom Trujillo, of New Milford, Conn., who was attending photography classes at Yosemite Institute, saw the rock slide and ran toward it. "Trees were crushed all over the place," said Trujillo over the sound of a hovering helicopter. "A couple of kids, 5th or 6th graders, were stumbling out of the area. I tried to picked them up, tried to get them out as fast as I could." Trujillo said he helped one boy, with blood on his forehead and down his back, get out and find his mother. "It was a really big mess," Trujillo said. "Tents were crushed, trees were knocked down, hard cabins were moved out of their positions, with boulders blocking their doorway." Another photography student, Rena McClain, a nurse from Dover, Del., told The AP in a telephone interview she had her back to granite face when she heard what sounded like a booming thunder clap. She whipped around and saw a giant cloud of rock and dust coming down. "People were starting to yell 'run, run' and kids started to scream," said McClain. As the dust settled, shaken teachers and chaperones gathered groups of high school students and tried to get head counts. "The kids were crying," said McClain. "I tried to comfort them. I'm a nurse, my immediate response was 'what can I try to do to help.' "There was another rock slide in the same area near Curry Village, on theeast side of the park, on Tuesday afternoon. No one was injured in that slide. In 1996, a rock slide in the same area sent as much as 162,000 tons of rock
plummeting more than 2,000 feet, killing one visitor and felling 500 trees. Curry Village includes visitor lodging, stores and restaurants.
Kathy_Kupper@nps.gov
infozone
1.94.5
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Mr_T
Trad climber
Somewhere, CA
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It's pretty darn lucky that with 4 cabins flattened, nobody was killed.
Given the location of the 2008 fall relative to the outhouse up top, does this cast a bit of doubt on the leech field theory? In other words, is upper glacier point just dangerous?
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Chicken Skinner
Trad climber
Yosemite
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I haven't climbed there in many years. I have seen way too many active areas over there.
Ken
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jeff_m
climber
Santa Barbara
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Hey Amy, did you get an update on the kids? I was up in Yosemite climbing with Rachel (one of the group leaders with the kids) last week. Didn't get through on her cell, but I'm guessing she's pretty busy. Damn frightening...
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Glen Denny made a point during his show at the FaceLift of mentioning that in his day (1960s), the thought of rockfall on or near the Apron never occurred to anyone.
No doubt that a lot of the Valley is geologically active, even on human time scales. I wonder what effect this will have on Curry Village and area? It's pretty scary stuff, in terms of what happened and what might be next. I bet Ken wasn't very comfortable being there this morning.
Someone upthread mentioned the Glacier Point rockfall from 1999, and the lawsuit resulting from the death of Pete Terbush, based in part on the theory that human waste disposal at Glacier Point had somehow lubricated the rock. The NPS has vigorously resisted the claim, and so far been successful in court. Essentially, the NPS has statutory protection for the results of most natural hazards that might happen in parks. It would be interesting to see the NPS-Delaware North agreement, and see how risk to structures and guests is apportioned and managed.
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Mr_T
Trad climber
Somewhere, CA
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A reposted photo from earlier - isn't the bathroom a considerable distance from the recent (marked 2008) slide? Both slides released from similar looking overhangs.
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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I climbed Mr. Natural in late April with Jared; you can see the Nine O'Clock wall in the background.
I think you'd be fine once you are 40' off the ground on the usual approach corner left of Dr. Feel Good. But you could be at some risk when walking up the talus to the base. I haven't seen the exact path of destruction from the new rockfall yet.
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CF
climber
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I got some photos of what was going on at Curry this am at:
Curry Rock Fall
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le_bruce
climber
Oakland: what's not to love?
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Corniss Chopper, the picture you posted of the '99 rock fall is arresting and grim - I'd never seen it before. Peter Terbush is both holding his belay and losing his life somewhere in that photo, correct? Respect to him. RIP Peter.
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
somewhere without avatars.........
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moving Curry would interrupt the flow of cash, dude...
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hoipolloi
climber
A friends backyard with the neighbors wifi
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fattrad, I believe the theories say the San Andreas is more likely to cut loose on an October day! Could be this year, hell could be tomorrow. Aren't there theorys that quakes are more likely on hot days (in the fall) --i.e. 'earthquake weather.'
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AmyT
climber
Santa Barbara
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Jeff,
The kids are all fine, thank goodness, and are due back early this evening (with plenty of storied, I'm sure!). It sounds like they were residing in some of the tent cabins that got crushed, but nobody got stuck inside them. They had to leave all their gear and possessions behind - we'll see if we get anything back later. From what I can tell, the entire village is evacuated.
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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hoipolloi,
> fattrad, I believe the theories say the San Andreas is more likely to cut loose on an October day! Could be this year, hell could be tomorrow. Aren't there theorys that quakes are more likely on hot days (in the fall) --i.e. 'earthquake weather.'
If there are theories of this, they aren't very good. Here's an old example that doesn't fit:
The Great 1906 San Francisco Earthquake
5:12 AM - April 18, 1906
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JuanDeFuca
Big Wall climber
Stoney Point
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How many years until lost arrow spire falls.
That would be so fing cool to watch.
Juan
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scuffy b
climber
City of the Future
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Since that retrofit, it ain't NEVER going to fall.
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