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Russ Walling
Gym climber
Poofter's Froth, Wyoming
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Dec 22, 2011 - 12:59pm PT
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Fact: tape = aid.
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jaaan
Trad climber
Chamonix, France
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Dec 22, 2011 - 02:08pm PT
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Fact: tape = aid.
Heptonstall... Post up that photo of Sir Mick's.
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FrankZappa
Trad climber
80' from the Hankster
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Dec 22, 2011 - 02:39pm PT
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FACT: It's the climber's choice.
I don't care if people tape and I don't care if people are offended that I do tape. (But I don't very often...)
I feel like I get better jams and less pumped if I don't tape.... but if I haven't been climbing cracks I'll surely gash myself if I don't tape.
Gotta admit that it kinda sucks to see tapers thrashing on cracks in Indian Creek as it wears more on the rock than people with controlled jams.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Dec 22, 2011 - 02:40pm PT
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If tape=aid then it must follow that shoes=aid. Let me tell you I am fairly heavy for my height, certainly no prancer, and I tape so I guess heavyweights can tape. As a matter of fact the heavier I get the more I want to tape. I am going to start taping for tips cracks. I am telling you though hand jamies are cheating.
I am going to start using scotch tape though so you can't tell.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Dec 22, 2011 - 02:53pm PT
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What about if you tape your nipples for slab climbs? Aid?
Titty dragging stinkbuggers need to know.
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DrMaino
Trad climber
Denver, CO
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Dec 22, 2011 - 03:11pm PT
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Who Needs Tape!
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Dec 22, 2011 - 03:20pm PT
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Apperently you do^^^.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Dec 22, 2011 - 03:28pm PT
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Fakt = As you age yer skin gets thinner.
Fakt = Hanging around on the Taco also makes yer skin thinner.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Dec 22, 2011 - 05:53pm PT
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Fakt, I went through more tape in the last year than in the rest of my life put together ( well, not really) It's nice to have hands that aren't vectors for disease.
I would really like to see the person who did the climbs I did in the last year without tape; A totally hypothetical situation. It flat out, ain't, happening! And yeah, you no tape guys can lecture all you want, but you ain't in the same trenches!
You jam a mile in my tape (or not, haha!) and we'll have a basis to start from!
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Dec 22, 2011 - 06:31pm PT
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Fakt = As you age yer skin gets thinner.
Fakt = Hanging around on the Taco also makes yer skin thinner. Fakt=too much time on taco makes your belly bigger
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Russ Walling
Gym climber
Poofter's Froth, Wyoming
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Dec 22, 2011 - 06:53pm PT
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Hey Jay... your horn sure is getting a workout these days.....
tape is aid. Ask Cilley.
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Russ Walling
Gym climber
Poofter's Froth, Wyoming
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Dec 22, 2011 - 07:04pm PT
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Seriously...taping you hands for climbing? Who f*#king cares
Freeclimbers.....
and YER MOM!!!!!!!
WHOOOO HOOOOOO!!!!!!!! GET SOME!!!!!!!!!!!
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rgold
Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
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Dec 22, 2011 - 08:07pm PT
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Hey, do we geezers get a bye? Lemme tell ya, not only does the scar tissue of youthful and not so youthful incompetence proliferate, but at a certain point, I think for me maybe in my early sixties, your skin starts to get really thin, and you got gobies if the back of your hand even just kisses the rock, fuggettabout actually jamming.
Plaintive questions notwithstanding, I cannot express how little I care what someone else thinks about this.
Just carry your messes back out with you, be they tape or the first aid supplies you need 'cause you think your skin is harder than rock.
And on a personal note, I don't find it terribly esthetic to jam cracks the non-tapers have bled all over.
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Dec 22, 2011 - 10:25pm PT
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Fact: tape = aid.
and sticky rubbers equals uncomfortable protection....
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couchmaster
climber
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I don't care if you tape and don't give a f*#k what you think when I tape. I'm with Rgold, just pick up yer litter. The truth is that tape helps you go faster.
Example: 3 of us old geezers went up to Serenity/Sons of Yesterday with tape on already from taping after an early breakfast in camp so as not to make anyone be forced to wait behind us. This was back before Clints rap route or the P1 crux bolt. Or maybe the bolt had been there but chopped. Anyway, we got up early.
At the base, 2 young dudes, both built like brick sh#t houses (ie, the way I'd like to look) came up behind us and wanted to go first. We would have let them go but we had our stuff flaked, spread out, rack layed out and the leader of P1 (it was wet that day and the guy 10 years younger than me had stepped up to lead it, thank you lord) was ready to fire. So he did. We told them they could pass later.
They turned around, dropped packs and started pulling out gear and we got to listen to their inter-partner grumbling coming in quietly soto-voce. blah blah blah "slow party of 3 for christsakes" blah blah "did you see how old those dude are" blah blah '"We're gonna be here all day"blah blah f*#k f*#k f*#k" etc. Had they known that we all wanted a piece of leading and were going to untie and retie for the leader, they'd have been even more disturbed. Before they even had their sh#t out out of their packs buddy was yelling down "OFF" and I was tied in and climbing, hoping that I was still good leading P2 so I fired up next and that was the last I saw of them for some time as it turns out (more on that later).
We did the 3 P of Serenity and no one was on our ass, the last guy up P1 lead P3. He was so smooth he looked like he could have easily free soloed it. No one on our asses which made the next 5 pitches of Sons of Yesterday so sweet. We don't top out to the rim and reject the very last pitch before the rim as there are so many below and we don't want to kill anyone with an errant rock from a little climbed part of a heavily trafficked route. (I've done this route many times, and some friends had recommended we top out and drop into N Dome Gully to the base as it's a good day, but I have yet to do it) Rapping down and we're off Sons we looked over to check before we pitched the ropes off onto the 3rd pitch of Serenity, we're shocked to see hotshot kid (no tape) "working" the moves. Although he wasn't "working" them right there as much as getting discouraged that he couldn't pull them after what later turned out was multiple attempts and by then he was hanging on the rope stuffing his hands into the chalk bag every 5 seconds while looking up at the sweetest damned crack ...as if that would help.... near defeated. Buddy who lead the pitch leans over and lets him know he's good and we'll wait. Complaints about the difficulty and how many times he'd already tried it drift up. Buddy leans over, (and realize buddy looks much like a stork with glasses) says: "take your time you can get this".
I'm thinking: "F*#k em, lets rap, the guy can hang there till we're past". But no: buddy says we'll wait, encourages hotshot to try again and starts in with beta for hotshot. Put your foot there, left pinky finger in there, etc etc. Log story short, hotshot lowered expecting his partner could lead it.....finally...and we rapped. My point is this, when you have tape, you just slam your hands in and the sh#t grips. If you are a weak old deskbound pussy like all of us, your hands are not calloused or strong. You got bad technique and too many pounds. Just put the tape on. Why worry over what some f*#kwads you don't even know think about it. You aren't bothering them by showing up with tape on. They shouldn't say a damned thing, unless you don't tape and they get stuck behind you of course.
Hotshots bailed after P2, but we were on the ground, packed up and starting to head to the car by then. 3 hours car to car 8 pitches for 3 people. Older people. All taped.
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Delhi Dog
climber
Good Question...
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Wow, that was a trip down memory lane...
Sad so many of those posters have gone.
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skywalker1
Trad climber
co
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I think about it this way. In the UFC or mixed martial arts they use 4 ounce gloves with tape below that has been pretty understood in terms of technique of taping for some time. Why??? It's not because physically pounding on someones head or whatever will protect the recipient from the striker making the idea of this safer. It's to protect the hand of the striker. Imagine pounding a cement block with your bare hand vs. taping up and put a little cushion in there.
It's common sense. Tape.
S...
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ExfifteenExfifteen
climber
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I think about it this way...
When I tape, the climbing feels a whole ton easier, especially when it gets very hard, of course very hard is a measly 5.11 for me... so, its aid... but who gives a shit! Guess I do, cuz I only tape when the flesh is already ripped! But, I do tape... lmfao... this thread got pushed back up, wow!!! No where to go for us, except up! As The Taco Turns... fukc it, let's go make fun of burchdog now!!!
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ExfifteenExfifteen
climber
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Imagine pounding a cement block with your bare hand vs. taping up and put a little cushion in there.
It's common sense. Tape.
Hmmmmmm, IMHO... this makes zero common sense.
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