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divad
Trad climber
wmass
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 5, 2008 - 04:31pm PT
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Riley,
"Why was this brought to our attention?"
Why respond, thereby bumping to the top something you deemed unworthy of our attention? :)
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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The pack circles, snuffling and snorting and snarling and slavering.
Who will be its next victim?
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atchafalaya
climber
Babylon
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Bisharat's articles/editorials on the South Face of Half Dome and Dean Potter were very good, imo.
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atchafalaya
climber
Babylon
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No GC, thats not it. The one I had read on Dean was after the Delicate Arch controversy. It was published in R&I, and I am not sure if its available online.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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I don't think anyone really cares one way or another about this particular kid's writing. He is a symptom rather than the problem itself. Print media is having a rough go in all fields because of the immediacy and interactive nature of the web. Newspaper circulation is dropping off a cliff, for instance. I'd wager that more people read the hot topic threads here than open Mr. Bisharat's "e-blast" hokum when it spams their inbox.
What probably winds people up way more than some kid sniping at ST is that R&I and Climbing used to be decent publications that were useful, inspirational, etc. Now they are by and large unreadable garbage. Photos tend to be good, but everything else from the graphical layouts to the choice of featured articles, to the writing itself have gone to sh#t 90% of the time. Take a 15-20 year old version off the shelf and compare it to one from the last several years. I especially notice the graphical layouts and how bad they've become. It's like the office worker who just discovered transitions and sound effects in Powerpoint and goes on to use them at every conceivable point. Alpinist, on the other hand, tends to have beautiful layouts that are clean and simple and keep the piece readable, yet are artistic enough. The quality difference between Alpinist and the others is light years apart, even if some of the writing in it is slightly bland.
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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The writing style is effective, even if it is a pretty cheap trick. It is intended to be provocative, and with the awareness that someone will post about it somewhere online, and then a lot of people will click the link to see what the hell the person's referring to. That ups the site viewer number, which is an important stat for advertisers.
At any rate - does anyone know this guy in real life and what his deal is? He must have some ability as a climber, I'd think. Maybe he's a boulderer......
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Jack Burns
climber
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I only read R&I for the pictures.
Some (most?) of the TRs posted here are better than anything the mags have paid for. I just pulled a late-nite four or five hour push to get through the Stonemaster threads, finally.
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Captain...or Skully
Big Wall climber
Yonder (out in the sagebrush)
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R & I is a waste....pure & simple. inane drivel....I don't(& WON'T) buy it ever...They wanted to put my old camo van on a cover once. Yeah, I didn't care to be associated with them.
Told 'em to get stuffed.....ha ha (LOL)
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