Discussion Topic |
|
This thread has been locked |
Crimpergirl
Social climber
St. Looney
|
|
|
Jan 29, 2008 - 12:51am PT
|
I will add to the long list of well wishers. So happy it's turned out well. Take care of yourself!
|
|
Bruce Morris
Social climber
Belmont, California
|
|
|
Jan 29, 2008 - 12:53am PT
|
Shouldn't you have your stool checked in the lab every couple of years? That's the way Kaiser does it. If the lab finds blood, then you go in for the general anesthetic and reaming. Otherwise, another test in a couple of years.
|
|
Oli
Trad climber
Fruita, Colorado
|
|
|
Jan 29, 2008 - 02:07am PT
|
Well, Rick, you and Gerry are my good friends, so you can imagine my concern but also relief that you seem to be doing better. I have been told I need one of those procedures, but the nature of my diabetes is that I have very serious dropouts when I don't have enough food in me. If I were to flush my system and fast, I would likely have one of those horrid dropouts and be in dire straits. I had such a dropout a while back while driving and had forgotten to bring food. Fortunately I was passing a gas station and pulled in, ran into the store, and started gorging twinkies, prior to even paying for them. I simply threw my wallet to the clerk, and fortunately pulled out of that hell. Another occasion, while taking a bath, I had one of those, and could just barely get out of the tub and crawl out on hands and knees, fighting off passing out, to get some juice. It's about the worst feeling I know, when one of those things hits. One day I got a dropout right in the middle of a sparring session at karate and, fortunately, raced out into the hall and got some candy out of a machine that saved me... My black belt student said I literally turned white instantly. I just can't imagine fasting and flushing my system and that it wouldn't be the end of me... Anyway, I'm glad you are getting through all this. You are such a great friend.
Pat
|
|
SteveW
Trad climber
Denver, CO
|
|
|
Jan 29, 2008 - 03:13pm PT
|
The actual procedure's a piece of cake as everyone
says. Good drugs. But the prep really sucks. I don't
mind the fast, but drinking that crap to clean you out
is cruel and unusual punishment. I can't even get it
down before it's back up through the esophagous. An
enema would be so much easier. . .
|
|
Bart Fay
Social climber
Redlands, CA
|
|
|
Jan 29, 2008 - 04:49pm PT
|
Pat-
I am strong in the ways of denial and excuses. Don’t let your diabetes lead you to
colon cancer. You well know that diabetics have more health problems than regular folk.
The fast is not a complete fast. Its just a one or two days of broth, jello, and
clear-ish liquids. They do have a unique fasting prep diet for the burgeoning
legion of American diabetics. Some solid foods that are light colored and the right
texture are allowed.
|
|
mooser
Trad climber
seattle
|
|
|
Jan 30, 2008 - 10:05am PT
|
I'm really sorry to hear about this development, Rick, and very grateful that you were able to catch it in time. Scary stuff, and it sounds like you're dealing with it really well. You're still one of my climbing heroes, having saved our butts (with Graham) on Tahquitz 30-plus years ago. You got the right stuff! My very best wishes for a speedy and complete recovery,
Tom Patterson
|
|
Rick A
climber
Boulder, Colorado
|
|
|
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 30, 2008 - 01:56pm PT
|
Kath-Kisses right back at ya!
Pat-Gerry and I look forward to getting together soon. Some good advice here about accommodations for diabetics. Check it out with your doctor.
Jack and Pam-I am at home all week. Drop by anytime.
Michael- I will take try to take you up on that as soon as I am able. I would love to have a tour of a BC classic or do a run with you on the amazing Highlands Bowl.
Todd-I am glad I was able to motivate you to get the test. It’s a piece of cake. The best tip I got was taking a bite out of a lime after each glass of the prep solution. It removes the aftertaste.
And to everyone , thanks again for the kind words and thoughts. I hope to see you all this year in the mountains.
|
|
healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
|
|
|
Apr 16, 2008 - 06:55am PT
|
[url="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/04/080414155256.htm" target="new"]Science Daily 4/16/2008 - Effective Colon Cancer Prevention Treatment Discovered[/url]
|
|
Lost Arrow
Trad climber
The North Ridge of the San Fernando
|
|
|
Apr 16, 2008 - 09:42am PT
|
I watched my friend die of colon cancer. He got it at 45 and it had already spread to his liver. I saw him a few days before he died and he looked like an Autswitz survivor.
|
|
Brunosafari
Boulder climber
Redmond, OR
|
|
|
Apr 16, 2008 - 11:35am PT
|
Rest up Rick and I know we are all so truly glad you're fine. And you've talked me into the colonoscopy. Super great to see the shots of you and Mike on the JT thread. -Bruce
|
|
Rick A
climber
Boulder, Colorado
|
|
|
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 16, 2008 - 02:50pm PT
|
Bruce-Thanks much. Was hoping to see you there, but let's get together soon. Feeling fine, really.
Healyje-Thanks for the article. I hadn't seen that and it is right on point for me.
Rick
|
|
Raydog
Trad climber
Boulder Colorado
|
|
|
Apr 17, 2008 - 11:38pm PT
|
my sincere wishes for your better/best health, Rick
and thanks for the advice...
Really good idea.
Hope everything works out OK,
Ray
|
|
john hansen
climber
|
|
|
Apr 18, 2008 - 12:31am PT
|
For some reason, high blood pressure or something , they had me take two tablespoons of "fleets' with 8 ounces of water.
The night before, and first thing in the morning.
Cleaned me right out, and I did not have to drink that "cherry cola".
The fasting part is kinda cool too.
|
|
rich sims
Trad climber
co
|
|
|
Jun 27, 2008 - 01:31am PT
|
Rick
I will start off with saying thanks.
I have been putting if off for three years.
Your post was the kick in the butt I needed.
They only found two polyps; the doctor told my wife he would see me in five years.
It’s really not that bad folks if it is just and out.
|
|
thedogfather
climber
Midwest
|
|
|
Jun 27, 2008 - 12:36pm PT
|
I'm almost 59 and just got mine done this past Wednesday. I put it off too long but fortunately all is well. I don't remember seeing the cool color pics because your short term memory is shot for about 1/2 hour or so after you wake up. At least it was for me. They say you are medically intoxicated for 12 hours but I was climbing at the gym 4 hours later.
|
|
Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
|
|
|
Jun 27, 2008 - 12:53pm PT
|
They're simply endless fun...
|
|
rockermike
Mountain climber
Berkeley
|
|
|
Jun 27, 2008 - 01:12pm PT
|
Interestingly, Kaiser only does the short version of the inspection. I think they claim if no cancer is found in first foot or two of colon then vary unlikely there will be any higher up. Meanwhile they avoid the risks associated with full colonoscopies (perforated colon). Of course if you are one of the few with hidden cancer high up then your sh#t out of luck (no pun intended). That's medicine practiced by statisticians. And of course also Kaiser saves big bucks with simpler procedure.
Anyway, prevention is even better then early detection. Vegetarian diets rule.
http://www.medpagetoday.com/MeetingCoverage/DDWMeeting/tb/5707
|
|
Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
|
|
|
Jan 19, 2009 - 09:21pm PT
|
There was an interesting article in the New York Times a month ago, about the effectiveness of screening colonoscopies. Two studies suggest that while still very worthwhile, they may not be quiet as effective as had been believed. More accurately, a lot depends on the skill and experience of the person doing the test.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/16/health/16cancer.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=colonoscopy&st=cse
Edit: Rick had his colonoscopy a year ago. Todd is having one tomorrow, hence the bump.
|
|
TYeary
Mountain climber
Calif.
|
|
|
Jan 19, 2009 - 10:20pm PT
|
Geez, Rick.
Wishing you the best and a quick recovery. I have been putting mine off for 2 years now. Just got set up for it again.
Scary, I tell ya.
Good thoughts coming your way.
Tony
|
|
|
SuperTopo on the Web
|
Let us know!