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Dick_Lugar

Trad climber
Indiana
Sep 12, 2007 - 10:21pm PT
Has anyone else noticed the Apple icon appears to have a bite out of it?..sorta reminiscent of the apple in Genesis that Eve ate from...which logically leads to my next conclusion: Apples are evil and are an instrument of the Lord of Darkness!
Dick_Lugar

Trad climber
Indiana
Sep 13, 2007 - 10:17pm PT
Very interesting...so Newton took a bite of out of the apple. I wonder why he didn't finish it? He must've wanted a fig instead???
Mark

climber
bend, oregon
Sep 14, 2007 - 01:58pm PT
i'm in the market for a laptop that i'd use mostly for web design, photos, and graphic design. i'll be working with big files and high res photos.

what model apple would you recommend for such uses? also, are the new models about to be released and i should wait?

thank you.
mark
L

climber
Tryin' to Reason with Hurricane Season...
Sep 14, 2007 - 02:16pm PT
Only three:

1. Why is the sky blue if air is invisible? (OK, that's a giveaway, but go ahead--I want to hear your version.)

2. What is the Meaning of Life? (OK-OK-OK, another giveaway, but I want to see if you're a Monty fan.)

3. Have you been on the couch again and what will you awe your adoring ST fans with now that you're off the couch? (5.12 off the couch seems so...well...pedestrian for you now...)



Like Werner said--nice to see you posting again.
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 14, 2007 - 04:56pm PT
^^^ What He Said™ ^^^

While my Macbook is a great little machine, in your case you will be much happier with a MBP.

While the Macbook has much better WiFi reception and better battery life, the MBP
has a much nicer screen with better viewing angle, aside from the larger size and higher resolution.
On the last MBP revision, they went to L.E.D. screens which are said to last much longer than
traditional back-lit panels, consume less power (which = better battery life) and do
knott suffer the yellowing that occurs with older machines.

According to the Macrumors Buyer's Guide, the MBP has had 100 days or so since its last update,
with the average period being 186 days So if you need one NOW, buy it now.
If knott, wait for the next update - although I'm pretty sure it won't be anything nearly as impressive
as what the current revision saw, with the latest chipset's faster bus speed (and the
ability to address 4 GB of RAM), and the new L.E.D. screens.

I'm a big fan of Apple Refurbished products; they're basically brand new (no sign of use),
with the same warranty as new. You'll save a nice bit of cash if you go that route.
Just make sure you get the most recent revision of MBP - they may or may knott be available.
The offerings in the Refurbished section of the Apple Store change on a day-to-day basis,
so it's best to check often if you choose to go that route. Otherwise, buying from Amazon gets you
a $150 rebate, no sales tax, and free shipping (at least $250 savings as opposed to buying locally).
Mark

climber
bend, oregon
Sep 19, 2007 - 03:13pm PT
thanks khanom and hardman knott.

i'd like to be sure to get the right computer and knott the wrong model. could you tell me if any of these refurbished computers in the 15 and 17 inch models are what you were recommending?

this is from the page you linked for me.

thanks,
mark

i'm also heading down to the valley for the next month. do you think they would ship it general delivery to me there?

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Raydog

Trad climber
Boulder Colorado
Sep 19, 2007 - 03:26pm PT
RE:
" yes. please critique my site: suehopkins.com"

your site is beautiful looking, is easy to navigate and shows your work really well. you've done some very nice work Sue, wish I could see the actual canvases. sorry about my late/slow response
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 19, 2007 - 03:35pm PT
Mark - the easiest way to tell if it's the most recent model is to check the video card;
the prior revision used the ATI Mobility Radeon X1600, while the latest revision uses the
NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT. I would definitely go for the latest revision, as they (15" models only) also
have the new L.E.D. screens, and should last much longer, with the added benefit of having better battery life.
While it is possible to BTO the super-high rez screen on the 17" (Like Khanom has),
I don't see any on the refurbished page the moment (I wouldn't hold my breath waiting).

So from the refurbished page link (as of today; changes often):

(15" MBP)
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?nplm=FA896LL/A

(same but with glossy screen)
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?nplm=FB075LL/A

(17" model; does not use the LED)
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?nplm=FA897LL/A

(17" glossy)
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?nplm=FB076LL/A
matisse

climber
Sep 19, 2007 - 05:27pm PT
Thanks guys for all the kind words about my site, I'm not exactly a pro so
if something doesn't load, looks screwy, is poorly organized or can otherwise be improved, please let me know.
Wes Allen

Boulder climber
KY
Sep 26, 2007 - 12:24am PT
Seems like it would be worth checking out for the mac photo people:

http://www.pixelmator.com/

I am going to use the demo version some, but seeing as I bought PS CS3 a couple months ago, not sure how much I would use it.
Mark

climber
bend, oregon
Oct 12, 2007 - 07:15pm PT
thanks for the beta hardman knott and knanom. i'm enjoying my new macbook pro here in the valley.

the only thing i'm knott as happy with is the strength of the wireless. i seem to have much more trouble than others logging on and keeping a signal.
Jaybro

Social climber
The West
Oct 12, 2007 - 07:55pm PT
Sour grapes, Jody, Knott bad apples- you making any headway in the case of those crack(meth?)heads that robbed me blind a few years back, while I was an absentee landlord? -20k$ makes it a felony, right?
Mark

climber
bend, oregon
Oct 15, 2007 - 04:14pm PT
hardman or khanom,
have you ever heard of my one complaint stated above? i'm really noticing ( wifi in yosemite lodge ) that my connection is knott as strong as others.

otherwise i love the computer. this is my third mac and i can't image switching to a pc.

thanks.
mark
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 15, 2007 - 05:20pm PT
Mark - the best thing to do would be to compare yours with another Macbook Pro,
preferably one of the Core 2 Duo or new Santa Rosa (like yours). Open Internet Connect
app on both machines and compare signal strengths. They should be the same. Also, you
could swing by an Apple Store and compare with the display models (without having to make an appointment).

Be aware that the old black Powerbooks, iBooks, and Macbooks with have better reception
due to the plastic blocking less signal than metal. As far as the various Powerbooks
and Macbook Pros go, the Macbook Pro is said to have better reception than the Ti
and Al Powerbooks.

Did you say you're in The Valley? I think Khanom is there through Oct, so maybe you
guys could test side by side. Otherwise, lurk in the Ahwahnee and you will see
plenty of Macbook Pros... Perhaps you could find a sympathetic hottie to help you out...
N0_ONE

Social climber
Utah
Jan 13, 2008 - 11:17am PT
My 2003 12" powerbook G4 Alum. is going down! It's taking forever to load up, it clicks and makes a lot of noise and the other day it would start up and look fine then it would kinda scramble the screen with a bunch of black and white lines.

What's happening?

My friend has the same computer. He dropped it about a year ago and it's just been sitting around. He gave it to me to use the parts. Should I start with the Hard Drive? Will it have his info on it?

Is it just a unplug the old one, plug in the new one and start it up process?

Thanks,
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 13, 2008 - 01:29pm PT
To N0_ONE (in particular):

Sounds like you have 2 separate issues. The clicking is most likely the hard drive.
A hard drive will warn you––if you're lucky––with strange clicking noises before it
gives up the ghost, giving you a chance to get data off before it dies. After that, you can
contact an outfit like DriveSavers™, who will happily recover data off it at a cost of
up to $2000 using state of the art forensic techniques. Now you can see why I say
it's suicidal knott to have a bootable backup at all times! Keep in mind also that
hard drives are relatively fragile componants which are supposed to last 5 years...

Weird lines on the screen are usually signs of a failing logic board. If that's the case,
you're fuçked (used logic boards go for $200+ on Ebay - good luck finding one for
a 12" model of the proper vintage). Alternately, you might find a new one for $700 or so.
You should plug the Powerbook into an external monitor to see if the lines show up.
If knott, that narrows it down to the inverter board or the display itself, or if you're
really lucky, something as simple as a loose connection. Good luck!

N0_ONE

Social climber
Utah
Jan 13, 2008 - 01:57pm PT
Thanks,

So, I can't use those parts out of my buddies G4?
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 13, 2008 - 02:11pm PT
Knott unless your buddy's G4 happens to be a 12" Powerbook with the same processor speed...

Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 13, 2008 - 02:29pm PT
Well, the hard drive goes without saying, but if you were going to replace it, it would be silly
to use another ancient, low capacity, 4200 RPM hard drive when you could get a Seagate
5400 RPM 160 GB with a 5 year warranty for less than $100.00. The flat cable you refer to is
part of the inverter board assembly, and I'm pretty sure they are model-specific. For example,
the inverter board for the 400 Mhz G3 Powerbook (Lombard) is different then the 400 Mhz
G3 Powerbook (Pismo).

Indeed, even replacing the hard drive is knott for the faint of heart in those models, and there
is plenty of opportunity to screw up and/or break something. An acquaintance replaced
her optical drive herself, and ended up breaking one of the heat-sink anchor posts
from the motherboard. Luckily it still worked when she got it back together.

At the very least, look at the instructions on iFixit.com. Even better is the Apple Service
Manual for that specific model, which is available if you know where to look...

This will give you an idea of what you're in for - make sure you print out the screw guide!

http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Mac/PowerBook-G4-Al-12-Inch/53/

Screw guide:

http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/53/ScrewGuide.pdf
N0_ONE

Social climber
Utah
Jan 13, 2008 - 02:56pm PT
My buddies G4 is the same model as mine but your right, it's only 60 gig I should just replace it with a new bigger one.

So you think this is better left to a professional at a $100 an hr?

My buddy has data on his he was hoping i could retrieve for him in the process. Should I do a test run with his HD before I buy a new one.

If it's the screen, how hard is it to swap screens?

Thanks Guys!
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