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Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Aug 11, 2007 - 08:42pm PT
(that's what I get for watching "Network" again)
WBraun

climber
Aug 11, 2007 - 08:47pm PT
Oh goody

This thread inspires.

When I need to test Düsseldorf Bosh retrofit I should bolt the entire Astroman so that only quick-draws are needed to do the climb.

I think the future is now!

You think?
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Aug 11, 2007 - 10:04pm PT
Asportman?
Cuckawalla

Trad climber
Grand Junction, CO
Oct 9, 2007 - 03:09pm PT
So if I wanted to go with those Hawkers, which Charger would I need.Could I go with this cheap one, http://www.gotbatteries.com/items.asp?params=search/all/1/all/39S208S1. Or do I need the intelligent chargers? Isn't it better to have a higher Amp/hour rating. I guess it comes at a cost of weight. I have the Bosch Bulldog.
thanks
Jesse
Juan Maderita

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Oct 9, 2007 - 03:54pm PT
I have had good results with this one:
http://www.gruberpower.com/gruberpower/advertising/batteries/cutsheets/55-805000.asp
When you asked: "Isn't it better to have a higher Amp/hour rating?", I'm not sure if you are referring to the charger or to the batteries.
The SLA batteries should be recharged with a 500ma (0.5 amp) to 1 amp smart charger. Faster charging is not good for the SLA batteries.
If you are referring to batteries, sure more amp-hour is great, but the cost is weight. You will need to find a compromise of power and weight to suit your needs. Two 3.0ah batteries works for leading a pitch or two. For all-day drilling, you might want two 7.0ah batteries.
Juan Maderita

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Sep 18, 2008 - 06:04am PT
I built two more battery packs and took digital photos this time around.

Aluminum bracket for securing two SLA batteries. 1/8" x 1" flat bar stock. A layer of duct tape is then wrapped over the outside.

Pre-wiring the connectors before installation.

Two 12v, 4.0Ah, SLA batteries, wired in series for 24v output at the male plug. There are two pairs of wires for charging with a 12v SLA smart charger. The gray adaptor (w/ male prongs cut off) is a protective cover for the male plug to prevent a short during transport.



The package is securely wrapped in duct tape to prevent connectors from pulling loose and shorted circuits.

Wrapped in protective closed cell foam. I hope the wife doesn't notice that her yoga mat is 2' shorter...

The completed SLA battery pack for a 24v Bosch rotohammer.
Buckle added in case the zipper blows. Hammer holster and gear loops added to the waist belt.

the kid

Trad climber
fayetteville, wv
Sep 18, 2008 - 08:51am PT
as one who has a phd in power drills and the ticket to prove it, go with the Hilti. they are the best, strongest and most reliable.
the new hilti kicks butt.
welcome to the dark side my son...
ks
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Sep 18, 2008 - 10:39am PT
Search your deepest feelings and you will know it to be true..........together we will rule the universe...even with bad elbows! LOL
Raydog

Trad climber
Boulder Colorado
Sep 18, 2008 - 11:57am PT
cool stuff!
Loomis

climber
o(>_
Sep 18, 2008 - 02:37pm PT
the kid: I have to disagree.
Hilti™ is way too expensive, too heavy and difficult to modify.

I have tested the new Bosch™ and Hilti™ side by side and must say, was far more impressed with the Bosch™
And if you want to talk about reliability, look at the drill I posted earlier in the thread,
it turns 22 years old this week.

Through careful cleaning, brush replacement and lubrication, it could last another 22 years.
Welcome to the dark side indeed, Scott.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Sep 18, 2008 - 11:12pm PT
Rokjox--Nothing about my climbing by way of end result or example has changed in the slightest. I have used power drills but prefer hand drilling. Beyond that the same amount of discretion, boldness and humility goes into each and every bolting decision that I personally make. Injecting a little humor into this thread doesn't make me a leave no trace hater----really!
deuce4

climber
Hobart, Australia
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 19, 2008 - 12:04am PT
Thanks again everyone for all your recommendations. Werner built me a proud rig out of a ebay Bosch.

Juan, nice rig!

So it's been over a year that I had the powered courage in my closet, but I still haven't used it. My intent has been to bolt up some chossy crags near Pagosa, to establish some safe moderate routes, but the battery charger konked out, and one thing led to another, and now we're in Tassie (without the p.drill) , and here there are plenty of crags with moderate routes!

So I'm still a virgin power bolter. Someday, Skywalker, I will feel the force...
Chicken Skinner

Trad climber
Yosemite
Sep 19, 2008 - 12:19am PT
You ever lead bolt with a power drill? Pretty sporty I thought, either carrying the lunker or hauling it up in precarious positions. Did not like falling with that thing.

Ken
Loomis

climber
o(>_
Sep 19, 2008 - 03:59am PT
deuce4: Glad to read your Excellent Solution™ involved a Bosch™ product.
Scott
bware

climber
a short drive from the way new place
Sep 19, 2008 - 08:19pm PT
I ponied up for a power drill about a year ago, the new 24V DeWalt DC223KA, based on recommendations from a couple of cheapskates like me. List is $550 or so, I picked mine up off eBay for $350 including shipping and two batteries. Musta fell off a truck. It's been a champ. It works about the same as the Hilti and Bosch as far as we can tell. It's got maybe 100-150 holes on it, including that hard as iron NJC rock and is still plugging away.
tenesmus

Trad climber
slc
Sep 19, 2008 - 11:29pm PT
I have the Hilti TE-36A and love it... except for the fact that its waaay too heavy.

wish I had the new 18 volt Hilti because its light and will drill a ton of holes and only weighs 6 pounds. That's the way to go.
Chinchen

climber
Way out there....
Apr 26, 2011 - 02:09pm PT
I figured I would resurrect this thread because it has been a few years. Any new drills that are the new standard? Lighter? Longer battery life? Whats new in power drilling?

Yes, I am crossing over to the dark side....
Jason
Chinchen

climber
Way out there....
Apr 26, 2011 - 05:41pm PT
Looks good!
J. Werlin

Social climber
Cedaredge, CO
Apr 26, 2011 - 06:32pm PT
On the lighter side . . .


I've been quite happy with this light weight Makita. I already had a charger and batteries, as own own a few different makita cordless tools for work, so that was part of why I bought it. (Also, the makita cordless drills at work have outlasted Bosch, Miluakee, Hitachi and Porter Cable.) I drilled about 14 3/8x4" holes in some volcanic igneous rock before batt. death.. Haven't maxed it out on granite yet, but it has plenty of guts.




picked mine up on ebay.


Chinchen

climber
Way out there....
Apr 26, 2011 - 06:37pm PT
Are you bringing it when you come to visit Jeremy? ;)

Seems like a pretty good deal.
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