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Crestline CA
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Yo... I was on the stage sidelines for most of the show, except for a few brief remarks I made, and we couldnt hear anything coming from the back of the crowd... it was unfortunate that they didnt have individual mics like the headset I had because the natural tendency is to gradually lower the mic as you talk and that makes it difficult for the people in the back to hear. Ed whittle was trying to make adjustments to the speakers so everyone could hear but it was difficult... plus only Royal had any real experience in giving shows so he could be heard... we presenters are sorry for the problems but did the best we could under the circumstances. The guys in the back are always roudy and that seems to be part of being young and undiciplined... comes with the age. Anyway Jerry, Mike, and Royal were real gentlemen and fun to hang out with before and after the show... they had a great time reliving the event and getting to hang out with the newer climbers..great examples for all of us... They were pretty current on the events and all knew about Dean Potter and Hans and all the speed stuff.. they loved it!! At the coffee Sunday morning I was talking to mike and I said something about Dean Potter who was a short distance away... Mike ask where he was and I pointed him out... Mike said.."Wow, so that's Dean Potter!!" We most likely will not see these three fine men together like this again so cherish the memories folks, cherish the memories......
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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JenRen wrote
"Y'all are being too hard on people..peace to all, it just wasn't that bad..don't take the joy out of it...events happen..when you bring together so many levels of climbers, experience and backgrounds not everyone is going to apply themselves in the same way..be kind to each other. History states there HAS been different groups and DIFFERENT personalities coming together at the rocks...embrace the diversity..stop picking on each other and remember the good times!!! Harding and Robbins are the perfect examples of it and it made for some of thier best achievements...SERIOUSLY STOP BAGGING ON EACH OTHER IT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY WE SHARE!!"
Yes, it IS good for our community. Basically, we're making the same point. Be Kind. If one of those guys were giving a presentation on freeing El Cap, it would not be kind of me to have a hula party in the back, even if I couldn't hear the speakers.
you're probably right that it wasn't THAT bad, but by whose standards? It wasn't elsewhere in the crowd that a glass bottle was broken. It was bad enough to bring negative attention to "The community that we share" This was a special event and folks from the NPS and other organizations were there. Why not set a better example when our community is putting on an event for everyone?
I can understand how the fact that it was hard to hear might make folks get into their own spray talk, but one of the reasons it was hard to hear was that those guys were partying and making it even harder to hear.
I'm not calling 'em satans or anything but if we're going to share community we need to respect each other and when something happens that disrespects community, we need to talk about it, cause there's always next time.
Peace
karl
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Wild Bill
climber
Ca
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Well said Karl. It wasn't just one broken bottle - there were four or five bottle or pint glasses broken.
Is the above poster saying the lager louts have ADD, and since they couldn't hear the speakers they drifted back to spray mode? Hardly - if they had piped down they would have heard things.
It all boils down to history, as I alluded to in my post above. The lager louts see history as encompassing what happened last year. Fifty years ago? Ancient history. FA of HD took days and weeks? Well sure, look at how old those first ascensionists are - old people are slow! That seemed to be their mentality. I hope I was never that way!
Anyway, it was indeed lovely and an honor to get to listen to those guys. They had scanned some old slides and photos, some of which had never been published, and those were way cool.
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426
Sport climber
Buzzard Point, TN
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The Harding slide show (circa '95) was one of the finest I ever saw...
Warren cued up with "This next one is a rock we climbed..."
Boom, (click) the Cap in full gloray...
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Roger Breedlove
climber
Cleveland Heights, Ohio
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"Well sure, look at how old those first ascensionists are - old people are slow!"
Finally, we have a sensible reason why today's standards are so much higher.
Thanks, Wild Bill.
Buzz
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