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WBraun
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Mar 28, 2007 - 01:52am PT
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Yeah Gary
Herodotus said: "This is the bitterest pain among men, to have much knowledge but no power."
Seems that hold so true for this modern age.
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Bruce Morris
Social climber
Belmont, California
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Mar 28, 2007 - 02:07am PT
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John Keegan, The Face of Battle. Keegan (again), Intelligence in War. Keegan (again), Six Armies in Normandy.
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turd
climber
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Mar 28, 2007 - 02:11am PT
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Wide, maybe. Would have been deeper if he had added Mein Kampf.
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tom woods
Gym climber
Bishop, CA
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Mar 28, 2007 - 02:30am PT
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I like the herodotus, but it's been a while.
Two must reads for all American History fans: Conquest of new spain by bernal diaz. Auto biography of the fall of the aztecs. Its incredible, horrible, strange, adventurous, and pschotic.
The other is called Falcon, the stoy of John Tanner. This guy gets kidnapped in ohio by Assinaboin Indians from Minnesota. One of there kids was killed so they took a kid from Ohio around the turn of the 19th century. He goes off, is raised as an Indian, shows up back on the farm as an adult, stays long enough to tell his story and heads back into the wild. Totally cool.
Tom
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Gene
climber
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Mar 28, 2007 - 02:35am PT
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Superb!
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Mar 28, 2007 - 07:43am PT
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Tuchman, Keegan ... some good recommendations here on the dark side of history. I thought Neal Acherson's The Black Sea was outstanding, as was William McNeil's Plagues and Peoples. I'm sure there are many others if I think a while.
Currently 3/4 through Jared Diamond's Collapse, and finding it fascinating.
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Tomcat
Trad climber
Chatham N.H.
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Mar 28, 2007 - 09:15am PT
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I liked the Churchill anthology too.A man for the moment.
Second vote for Miracle at Philadelphia.
I love Paul Revere's Ride...David Hackett Fischer...but I'm a buff so.
Ken Follett's Pillars of the Earth,while just a historiacl novel,was a great read and pretty enlightening about life at that time.
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WoodySt
Trad climber
Riverside
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Mar 28, 2007 - 09:41am PT
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As a younger person, I read through the Will and Ariel Durant series twice, loved every page.
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TopRopeGun
Trad climber
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Mar 28, 2007 - 10:24am PT
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"With the Old Breed"-E.B.Sledge
With the MArines at Tarawa and Guadacanal
"The Good War"
All first person accounts of ww2...amazing stuff.
"Guns, Germs and Steel"
"Eagle against the Sun"
The PAcific Theater WW2
"A peoples history of the United states"
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d-know
Trad climber
electric lady land
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Mar 28, 2007 - 10:41am PT
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the dedalus book of roman decadence
"emperors of debauchery"
edited by geoffrey farrington
a collection of histories from
historians of the time period.
want to know how down and
dirty those cats from the past
really were?
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wildone
climber
Isolated in El Portal and loving it
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Mar 28, 2007 - 11:03am PT
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A People's History -- Howard Zinn
Stories Hollywood Never Tells -- Howard Zinn
Artists in a Time of War -- Howard Zinn
Collapse -- Jared Diamond
And this one, which was AWESOME and was as much a history of hip hop, including the beasties boys, ll, etc as it was the sad story of run dmc..
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bonin_in_the_boneyard
Trad climber
Sittin' on the dock by the bay...
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Mar 28, 2007 - 12:43pm PT
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For music:
Especially the chapters on Black Flag and the Butthole Surfers.
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stevep
Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
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Mar 28, 2007 - 01:05pm PT
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Barbara Tuchman and Jared Diamond are both very good and very readable.
For a physics-oriented view of things, it's tough to top The Making of the Atomic Bomb, by Richard Rhodes.
I'm currently reading A History of the World in 6 Glasses by Tom Standage which is an examination of all of human history by looking at drinking, politics and economics surrounding beer, wine, distilled spirits, coffee, tea and Coke. Was civilization started because of beer production? Maybe.
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aldude
climber
Monument Manor
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Mar 28, 2007 - 03:13pm PT
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A Short History of The Civil War by Fletcher Pratt. A real page turner where the characters come alive!
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Apocalypsenow
Trad climber
Cali
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Mar 28, 2007 - 03:33pm PT
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"The Peoples History of the United States" Howard Zinn
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Kartch
climber
belgrade, mt
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Mar 28, 2007 - 04:04pm PT
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currently reading "Cobra II" - which seems to be a pretty good account of the Iraq war from 9/11 to the Bagdad occupation, but I have nothing to compare it to yet. Sounds like "Fiasco" should be my next read.
I'm also reading "Days of the French Revolution" which seems to be a beginners guide to the French Revolution.
Read on.
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tom woods
Gym climber
Bishop, CA
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Mar 28, 2007 - 11:52pm PT
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I guess from reading this thread, you can't just pick a best history book becuase there are so many time periods. Herodotus is great, plutarch is pretty sweet for the anicent stuff.
I stand by conquest of new spain as a must read for American History. I like neil young but "Cortez the killer" really simplyfies things to the point of meaninglessness. This book has it all. 500 guys land on the shores of Mexico and burn their ships so there is no going back.
More modern history. Ayone read My Jihad by Aukai Collins?
How about See no Evil by Robert Baer?
The Zinn book is okay.
Lies my teacher told me is fine too, but do I really need to read a book that tells my high school history teacher was trying to simply things for me to understand? I f*#king 16 and dumb as post I'd be lucky if I learned even a tenth of those supposed lies.
Tom
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Raydog
Trad climber
Boulder
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Mar 28, 2007 - 11:54pm PT
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heavy man heavy
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tom woods
Gym climber
Bishop, CA
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Mar 28, 2007 - 11:56pm PT
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heavy? Me? Sh#t, I just like history books. One of the few off topic threads I've wanted to respond too.
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