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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 5, 2019 - 09:25am PT
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I have had sex on a climb. just did not think to put it on the list..
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Bale
Mountain climber
UT
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had sex on a solo newroute Ha, that gave me a chuckle.
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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I've not ticked very many of the original list. I do better on this one, but not all. Have you ever:
1. Helped an old person across the street?
2. Nursed a baby bird back to health?
3. Grown vegetables?
4. Killed an animal and eaten its flesh?
5. Foraged food in nature that you identified and ate?
6. Created a business that gave yourself enough money to support a family?
7. Bought a house?
8. Built a house?
9. Held hands in public with a person you've been in a relationship with for a decade or more?
10. Stayed up all night with a sick person?
11. Cleaned another person's butt?
12. Volunteered as a parent chaperone on your kids' school trips?
13. Watched your child graduate college?
14. Watched your child in a happy healthy relationship?
15. Had your child belay you on a climb?
16. Spoken to an audience with 100 or more people?
17. Made a room full of people laugh?
18. Changed a tire on a vehicle?
19. Changed the oil on a vehicle?
20. Changed spark plugs on a vehicle?
21. Repaired a hole in a car tire on a backcountry road?
22. Used bailing wire or duct tape to fix anything on a vehicle?
23. Snorkeled, surfed, or swum in the ocean along a desolate coastline?
24. Paddled out through breaking waves with 10+ feet faces?
25. Gone up a curb on a skateboard without your foot touching the ground?
26. Dropped in on a half-pipe on a skateboard?
27. Dropped in with air on skis or a snowboard?
28. Built a snow cave and slept in it?
29. Been buried in an avalanche?
30. Lassoed a rock/anchor and done a Tyrolean traverse?
31. Voluntarily spoken with a counselor/psychologist to heal your inner child, overcome negative patterns in your life, or improve your relationship with another person?
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ecdh
climber
the east
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1. Helped an old person across the street? yes
2. Nursed a baby bird back to health? yes
3. Grown vegetables? yes
4. Killed an animal and eaten its flesh? yes
5. Foraged food in nature that you identified and ate? yes
6. Created a business that gave yourself enough money to support a family? almost
7. Bought a house? no
8. Built a house? yes
9. Held hands in public with a person you've been in a relationship with for a decade or more? often
10. Stayed up all night with a sick person? yes
11. Cleaned another person's butt? yes
12. Volunteered as a parent chaperone on your kids' school trips? no
13. Watched your child graduate college? no
14. Watched your child in a happy healthy relationship? yes
15. Had your child belay you on a climb? not really, it was set up
16. Spoken to an audience with 100 or more people? yes
17. Made a room full of people laugh? yes
18. Changed a tire on a vehicle? yes
19. Changed the oil on a vehicle? no
20. Changed spark plugs on a vehicle? no
21. Repaired a hole in a car tire on a backcountry road? no
22. Used bailing wire or duct tape to fix anything on a vehicle? yes
23. Snorkeled, surfed, or swum in the ocean along a desolate coastline? yes
24. Paddled out through breaking waves with 10+ feet faces? yes
25. Gone up a curb on a skateboard without your foot touching the ground? no
26. Dropped in on a half-pipe on a skateboard? no sadly
27. Dropped in with air on skis or a snowboard? no
28. Built a snow cave and slept in it? yes
29. Been buried in an avalanche? no
30. Lassoed a rock/anchor and done a Tyrolean traverse? yes
31. Voluntarily spoken with a counselor/psychologist to heal your inner child, overcome negative patterns in your life, or improve your relationship with another person? spoken to psyche yes, for those reasons no
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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From the OP's list:
1.Made love in A VW Van. Yes
2.Been to a Dead show while Jerry was still alive. Nope
3.Driven a car or a motorcycle over 100mph. Yes, only 100?
4.Run from the police. No
5.Spent a night in jail. Yes
6.Had sex while driving. Yes
7.Smoked pot in church. Yes
8.Been in a real fist fight. No
9.Stared down a knife or gun. Yes
10. Been shot at and missed. Yes
11. Been shot at and hit. No
12. Had booze for breakfast. Yes
13. Won a shooting competition. Yes, but they were nothing official.
14. Slept on the ground without a tent. Duh
15. Taken a road trip that lasted longer than a month. Yes
16.Climbed more than 100 days in a calendar year. Yes, or close to it.
17.Skied more than 100 days in a calendar year. No
18. Done a first ascent. Which one?
19.Climbed a mountain that goes above tree line. Yes
20. Climbed El Capitan. Yes
21. Climbed in more than one country. Yes
22. Climbed ice. Yes
23. Sang or played on stage at Dornans. Nope
24. Slept at Wall Mart. Not a chance.
25. killed a mammal for your dinner. Yes. Raised by a hunter, so when we succeeded it was good for a lot more than one dinner.
26.Grown your own food. Yes
27. Heated entirely with wood you cut and split yourself. Yes
28. Given birth. To what, an idea?
29. Fathered a child. Not that I am aware of.
30.Made love outside. Yes, and on some climbs as well.
31.Swam in a lightning storm. Are you crazy?
32. Gone swimming when there is snow on the ground. See above.
33.Built a house. Does a three story tree house count?
34.Touched a live wild bird. Yes, it was seriously injured and needed to be put down. A sad day.
35.Milked a cow by hand. Yes, the farmers daughter made me do it...
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divad
Trad climber
wmass
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Anybody else have a grandchild belay them on a climb?
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two-shoes
Trad climber
Auberry, CA
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Too machismo braggadocious for me to play, sorry. Have fun!
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 5, 2019 - 03:43pm PT
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Nut Again. I got a 24 on your list. Missed 7,12,13,14,25,26,28.
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jogill
climber
Colorado
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36. Stole a gun from a mafioso at age 14.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 5, 2019 - 03:54pm PT
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Yikes! J Gill, Glad you got away with it :)
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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And, no LSD anywhere on that list. WTH?
No climbing on LSD.
No FAs on LSD.
No windsurfing 50kt days in the Gorge on shrooms.
Weak...
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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7,9,11,16,20,23 not Dornans,29,28 helped.
So what?
Do you like math?
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ecdh
climber
the east
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...been in a Turkish prison?
is hungarian close enough?
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Or on bread and water in the brig?
Or a military prison...?
Or Paul McCartney's cell in a Tokyo slammer...?
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TWP
Trad climber
Mancos, CO & Bend, OR
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Tradman's list is somewhat skewed to exalt the "sex, drugs, rock and roll" versions of manhood; thus, I don't "score" well on his dickometer.
The lovely thing about any list or typology is the power which resides in whomever proposes the criteria.
I know there are plenty of characters (current and ex-ST posters) who could write their own self-serving "have-you-ever" lists that make my own offering (which follows below) pale by comparison.
To name a few, I'd love to see the "have-you-ever lists" for Sierra Ledge Rat, Don Paul, Delhi Dog, Largo, Donini, Rocker Mike, ecdh, Moose (if he'll be serious for once) and Steve Arsenault.
However, for a list skewed in my favor, I ask, have you ever:
1. Defended and won acquittal for a man charged with capital murder?
2. Written a book (that got published) based on your own life experience?
3. Parented and successfully raised a child who is emotionally, financially and socially well adapted and actually happy?
4. Crossed the Ganges River (where it is over one mile wide) on a bamboo raft carrying the family Jeep?
5. Obtained the equivalent of a Ph.D level of knowledge in any field of knowledge?
6. Learned a foreign language to the level of conversational fluency?
7. Traveled in over 30 foreign countries?
8. Studied all the world religions to a level of reasonable academic and/or conversational fluency?
9. Successfully defended your woman from a rape attempt by an armed assailant? And you don't have any weapon? And he took two shots at you (and missed)?
10. Climbed a mountain over 18,000 feet high?
11. Reached an "expert," "quasi-professional," and or "fully professional" level in at least three distinct outdoor sports?
12. Fall in love at first sight and then formed a committed "marital" relationship with the object of same?
13. Made a first ascent?
14. Hitchiked and/or picked up hitchhikers in four different continents?
15. Hitchiked over 5,000 miles in your life?
16. Bivied the night outside without adequate clothing, sleeping bag and/or tent more than once? More than five times?
17. Spent your second night in a foreign country outside, on a sandpile, hiding from security guards, wearing only a bathing suit and too cold to sleep?
18. Gone on numerous "walkabouts" in foreign countries for months on end with no real plan or schedule?
19. Driven the same motor vehicle for 20 (or 30) years?
20. Driven the "Karakoram Highway" from Islamabad to Skardu and then Askole (or some other comparable horror show at least 200 kilometers long, if such a thing exists)?
21. Done all the above and never suffered a broken bone?
22. Served without compensation on the board of directors (or as President) of a charitable, philanthropic or non-profit entity?
23. After age 10, been happier every successive decade of your life? (Happiness ages 0-10 is impossible to compare or rate IMHO.)
24. After age 15, gone 10 years (or more) without consuming any alcohol. tobacco or recreational drugs?
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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...been to...
no.
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ecdh
climber
the east
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1. Defended and won acquittal for a man charged with capital murder? no edit; i have provided resources and evidence for persons facing potential death penalty tho.
2. Written a book (that got published) based on your own life experience? no
3. Parented and successfully raised a child who is emotionally, financially and socially well adapted and actually happy? so far yes
4. Crossed the Ganges River (where it is over one mile wide) on a bamboo raft carrying the family Jeep? all but the jeep
5. Obtained the equivalent of a Ph.D level of knowledge in any field of knowledge? not yet
6. Learned a foreign language to the level of conversational fluency? yes
7. Traveled in over 30 foreign countries? 28
8. Studied all the world religions to a level of reasonable academic and/or conversational fluency? started to then gave up in disgust
9. Successfully defended your woman from a rape attempt by an armed assailant? And you don't have any weapon? And he took two shots at you (and missed)? does saving a few kids from human traffickers substitute?
10. Climbed a mountain over 18,000 feet high? multiple
11. Reached an "expert," "quasi-professional," and or "fully professional" level in at least three distinct outdoor sports? expert maybe, paid for it yes
12. Fall in love at first sight and then formed a committed "marital" relationship with the object of same? first part no, second part yes
13. Made a first ascent? multiple
14. Hitchiked and/or picked up hitchhikers in four different continents? yes. 5 if we include the subcontinent
15. Hitchiked over 5,000 miles in your life? easily
16. Bivied the night outside without adequate clothing, sleeping bag and/or tent more than once? More than five times? lots more than 5 times
17. Spent your second night in a foreign country outside, on a sandpile, hiding from security guards, wearing only a bathing suit and too cold to sleep? had more than a bathing suit but less than a visa
18. Gone on numerous "walkabouts" in foreign countries for months on end with no real plan or schedule? my obituary will probably contain those exact words
19. Driven the same motor vehicle for 20 (or 30) years? no
20. Driven the "Karakoram Highway" from Islamabad to Skardu and then Askole (or some other comparable horror show at least 200 kilometers long, if such a thing exists)? done the kkh in full 7 times so far and several that make it tame by comparison.
21. Done all the above and never suffered a broken bone? yes
22. Served without compensation on the board of directors (or as President) of a charitable, philanthropic or non-profit entity? no
23. After age 10, been happier every successive decade of your life? (Happiness ages 0-10 is impossible to compare or rate IMHO.) excellent question, need to think on that
24. After age 15, gone 10 years (or more) without consuming any alcohol. tobacco or recreational drugs? almost, yes, no comment
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ecdh
climber
the east
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or simply answer someones questions
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Defended and won acquittal for a man charged with capital murder?
This one begs the question, did he do it or did he not? Good for you if he was innocent.
Done all the above and never suffered a broken bone?
So you claim to be hard core but you've never broken a bone? LOL.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 6, 2019 - 03:29am PT
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Terry. This whole thing was inspired by a list on FB that I thought was lame. Your list is amazeing.My list is obviously slanted by growing up a preachers kid. I do not get too many on your list. I have been sober over 12 years. What is your book about?
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