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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Is that in Ohio...?
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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The Constitution gives the right to bear arms, but it also says we have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. It seems that some NRA people feel that the 2nd amendment trumps the right to life.
I hate to be picky, but the Constitution does not provide a right to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." You're quoting the Declaration of Independence. Amendment V of the Constitution provides that no one may be deprived of life, among other things, without due process of law.
While I'm happy to see true interest in important political affairs by the high schoolers, their logic needs some improvement. They say they're too young to handle a gun until they're 21, but they're old enough to vote at 18. If nothing else, the last election should demonstrate which of these activities has more potential for harm.
John
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wbw
Trad climber
'cross the great divide
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Gunsmoke, the excuses you make for Santorum don't make his comments any more reasonable or comprehensible.
The Santorum quote (above) is taken out of a much longer dialog and was seemingly selected to make the comment seem as outrageous as possible. The overall point Santorum made was that protesting for someone else to solve the problem while doing nothing yourself is unhelpful. "They took action to ask someone to pass a law," Santorum said. "They didn't take action to say, 'How do I, as an individual, [going to] deal with this problem? How am I going to do something about stopping bullying within my own community ... ?'"
Aren't you describing how our political system works in your Santorum rationalizations?? . . i.e. the people speak and the politicians listen.
On second thought, I'm not sure this is how our system works.
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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The NRA has some 5 million members
many of whom fondly harken back to the good old days when the NRA was about teaching little Timmy to shoot his Daisy BB rifle
today the NRA rightfully honors the Second Amendment
making sure that should King George of England mess with us again that we can round up militias
who will grab their single shot black powder muskets and kick George's ass again
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Apparently the NRA wants to stir things up! LOL This is unbelievable...... almost.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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phuck yeah, AR-15s for everyone!!!
"you ain't seen nuthin' yet"
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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This whole 2nd amendment thing is cracked.
The 2nd Amendment means that States can and should have their own well armed volunteer armmies. As independant states, united, in a republic, for mutual protection.
NOT one big country, all the same, all one.
Somewhere around John Adams the "big" goverment took over. Hamilton's financial plan undermined state power but like the Greeks and Germans of the present day, the unproductive states started riding on the productive ones.
So in the words of the constitution, California should not only be the 5th largest economy of the world, we should have one of the largest standing militia.
And this is why everyone is so confused. If states like California really had the power and independance it deserved, we would be calling the shots. The rest of the USA would be beholden to us instead of milking us for cash to fund all their stoopid projects in other states as well as the buracracy in DC and countless political campaigns.
NRA, whatever.
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dirtbag
climber
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Apparently the NRA wants to stir things up! LOL This is unbelievable...... almost.
Yeah...I’m actually speechless.
I think the act speaks for itself.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Ollie North, what a perfect choice. A gun-running traitor will now run the propaganda and lobbying arm of the U.S. arms manufacturing industry bent on continuing to profit by flooding our nation with yet more guns.
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McHale's Navy
Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
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In its Irrational Exuberance did the NRA just shoot itself in the foot? Better safety training is on the calendar now!
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Well at least now there will be arms for hostages,..
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Graphs are so much fun
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chainsaw
Trad climber
CA
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May 12, 2018 - 07:43pm PT
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You can pry my guns from my dead hands! Gun control advocates are HUGE GUN OWNERS!!!!!! What a bunch of hypocrite as#@&%es!!!!!!
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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May 12, 2018 - 07:56pm PT
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Huge gun owners...? You mean like howitzers ...?
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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May 12, 2018 - 09:34pm PT
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https://theintercept.com/2018/05/12/oliver-north-nra-iran-contra/
THE NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION has always been clear about drugs: They’re terrifying.
Last year, NRA CEO Wayne LaPierre darkly warned that members of drug gangs “are infiltrating law enforcement and even the military.” In 2013, LaPierre proclaimed that “Latin American drug gangs have invaded every city of significant size in the United States,” and are a key part of the “hellish world” that awaits us in the future. When Charlton Heston was president of the NRA in the 1990s, he declared that regular Americans would soon be besieged by 10,000 drug dealers freed from prison by the Clinton administration.
It seems odd, then, that the next president of the NRA will soon be Oliver North, who spent years in the 1980s working together with large-scale cocaine traffickers and protecting a notorious narco-terrorist from the rest of the U.S. government......
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