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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Yeah, I'm sure the idealists would vote third party on "principle" and hand Prez P'grab another term.
The GOP just passed the biggest handout to the rich in history. Thanks, Jill Stein!
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hellroaring
Trad climber
San Francisco
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Doesn't PR claim to love climbing mountains?
Paul Ryan + climbing = unwitnessed accident
One of you Colorado boys or girls should offer to "guide" him up something
Seriously though, in a profession where dishonesty & lies are the norm, he seems to be a standout
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Adam Schiff, ever seen interviews with him?
he is on the House Intelligence committee investigating Trump
very smart, careful, he has my write in vote
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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crankster, you might consider why it is that the bernie bros and the idealists are just done with the Dems. Or not, keep trying to sell those hotcakes (sure looks like they're gettin' a little cold. stale, even). you can always go feed the crumbs to the ducks and reminisce about the good old days before the DNC shot itself right in the pecker
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Brave, you give me too much credit. I just deal with the system we have, not the one you or others might want.
I hear this unicorn stuff all time...get the money out of politics, we the people...zzzzz. Ok, call me when that's done. Until then, I'll support the nominee of my party and work to get them elected.
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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well good luck with that leaky old terlit. I'd just as soon install a new one, or dig a cathole, or *do something different*
in case you haven't noticed, the national discourses have changed significantly since a stagnant mainstream vote appealed to my demographic.
you're kinda hamstrung there, seems to me. some of us would rather watch the ship sink from afar (literal and figurative) than to keep trying to patch the holes, fire the boilers, find a competent non-power-drunk captain etc.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Let's keep an open mind. It's early. We can have a healthy debate in the meantime. We need to do whatever is necessary to get the mentally ill person out of the White House and get control of congress. If not, we might not be around in 2020.
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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we'll get around to fixing that old terlit once we're back in power right? ha!
naw man, gonna go detach some more (new Sherman granite on a fine sinuous stream!!), and keep my eyes peeled for a party that I can vote for in good faith.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Maybe Nader will run again. Green, yeah, that's the ticket.
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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you are stuck in the rut of the old failing two party paradigm dude. I have never gone third party before. I will never go mainstream again.
v no, no revolution leading here, just a steady diminution of the Democratic base. v
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Brave, do what you have to do. We have a 2-party system. I'll deal with that why you lead the revolution.
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dirtbag
climber
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Crankster keeps raising a point that no one wants to hear: the system we have necessarily means we have 2 main competing parties. Short of sweeping constitutional changes (sorely needed, long overdue, but good luck with that!), it is what it is.
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John M
climber
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LOL.. way too funny.. You don't even see that your comment about Nader is a slur. You are blind dude. And I have no problem with voting for a woman. But I want one who hasn't sold her soul to the power brokers on wall street. Why is that so hard for you to understand. I also want one who isn't stupid enough to call the other party members deplorables, as that fired them up.
But you won't understand this, and will interpret what I say through your own filter.
Too bad.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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I see fine, John. You're the only be with issues. Still unimaginable to you that Dems didn't nominate St. Sanders.
"Sold to power brokers". Zzzz. Mind numbing.
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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One never knows what course history might take but at the current time Ryan has a extremely negligible chance of ever being POTUS.
Except in the fantasy land of Libtardia Enclavia
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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I want one who hasn't sold her soul to the power brokers on wall street.
Whew, barely dodged that bullet in 2016, would have been horrible to have Wall Street scum whispering in Hillary's ear.
Go right ahead and split the party in an attempt to "reform" the admittedly flawed system we have, recipe for disaster.
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John M
climber
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Yes, dirtbag, we have a two party system. One that is corrupt. Hillary got the nomination through corruption. Some of us are tired of that corruption, but others just want to ignore it so that they can win. And they belittle anyone who doesn't want to ignore it. Many of them would still vote for Hillary. They want to win at any cost. I find the cost too high.
Clean house first. Investigate what happened. clear the air. Thats the only way you will get voters back like bravecowboy.
Or.. you could continue down Cranksters path.. Good luck with that.
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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thank you for articulating what I ain't got the patience (ability, desire?) to communicate John M
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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The election of 2016 was binary, it was either Trump or Clinton
by writing in Bernie or by not voting one gives their vote to Trump
you can always find some reason to not like a candidate, Obama smoked pot in college or he is only half white
Hillary took money for giving speeches to Wall Street companies, ok hate her for it
but bottom line, you either prefer Democratic party polices in government or you prefer Republican policies
and you vote accordingly - the founders thought their fellow Americans so uneducated, so stupid that only white male land owners be allowed to vote
no such limits today, everyone is free to embrace the undereducated, the intellectually lazy......
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