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splitclimber
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Sonoma County
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Nov 16, 2017 - 10:42pm PT
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All of the news headlines say that he grouped her. But I'm not seeing where she said that or he admitted to that. I'm not referring to the kiss.
Honest question to expose any fake news. :)
The pic is not proof that he grouped her, even though what he did is inexcusable.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Nov 17, 2017 - 05:36am PT
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Time for a congressional investigation...Maybe have the Cato Institute , the libertarian think tank , research the allegations...We need to get to the bottom of this right now...
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Nov 17, 2017 - 06:42am PT
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It is instructive how quick partisans are to forgive one of their own.
Nothing new, eh? Trump says nothing about Moore, but has already started tweeting about Franken. Republicans do it and they're despicable, Franken does it and he's an OK guy. Deficits are horrible, unless they transfer money to the billionaire class then deficits are good. "Etc, etc, wow."
Bread and circuses. Except they're starting to take away the bread now.
So it goes.
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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Nov 17, 2017 - 07:17am PT
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A couple clicks on the net show he apologized and she accepted. One would think that would be the end of it.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Nov 17, 2017 - 07:18am PT
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There is an obvious solution to the pervasive problem. Women should be required to wear head-to-toe burqas so that men won't be tempted to commit heinous acts.
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MikeL
Social climber
Southern Arizona
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Nov 17, 2017 - 07:55am PT
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I wonder how many males, in this climate, would admit to saying, gesturing, or doing something with or to the other gender that they would regret today? I would.
I wonder how many females, in this climate, would admit to taking an active part in those behaviors by males?
My wife and I have had a couple long conversations about this, and we both feel that it’s a bit unfair (but ambiguously so) that we apply today’s political standards to yesterday’s events. We both see it something that could be taken a bit more lightly, less concretely, more emphatically, and more globally. We both feel it is wiser to be in the moment about such things, rather than having one foot in the present and the other foot in the past.
Sometimes there aren’t any solutions that makes everything alright.
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Larry Nelson
Social climber
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Nov 17, 2017 - 08:36am PT
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Franken is a comedian, that's what edgy comedians do.
Lenny Bruce would be run out of town nowadays.
If Franken resigns, how many others are in the queue?
Could their political voting be altered by their fear of being outed?
This goes back to the most compelling case against Bill Clinton: If he would lie to a grand jury, wouldn't he be susceptible to bribery?
How far back do we go? Moore's sins go back to the era of Ted Kennedy and Mary Jo Kopechne.
How do we now reconcile the Lion of the Senate?
I don't think we'd better build anymore statues of people.
Better yet, limit the power of Washington DC.
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Larry Nelson
Social climber
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Nov 17, 2017 - 08:44am PT
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How ironic that many politicians supporting women's rights turn out to be misogynist pigs, while others supporting traditional marriage are found cavorting in gay closets.
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Nov 17, 2017 - 08:48am PT
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Liberalism truly is, a mental disorder
you, honey boo boo, do not have either the courage nor the depth of intellect to be a liberal
being a cowardly "conservative" is easy enough for you
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Nov 17, 2017 - 08:50am PT
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Liberalism truly is, a mental disorder The inability to detect sarcasm is an intellectual deficit not limited to party lines
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John M
climber
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Nov 17, 2017 - 09:00am PT
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Edit: it took me awhile to write my post. SLR posted while I was writing.
your bias is showing NWO2.. SLR's comment was a joke.. I thought it was funny. Ease up people. Crankster tends to rub me the wrong way with his over the top acceptance of all things Hillary, but he in my opinion is being reasonable about Franken. This incident is quite different, at least so far, from the Moore case, where multiple women have stepped forward. Also Franken has owned up, at least partially, and apologized. Whereas Moore has denied everything and is even demonizing the women.
Leeann Tweeden was on good morning America.
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/al-franken-accuser-leeann-tweeden-says-she-stayed-122705277--abc-news-topstories.html
She sounds reasonable. Men have over the years behaved terribly towards women and objectifying them has become the norm. I have dated numerous women over the years who have taught me how I treated them like an object at times, and it took a lot of effort on my part to change that. And still today I make mistakes.
Thankfully times are changing. Women are learning how to have and hold power and men are learning compassion, decency, and how to treat women equally.
Is it perfect yet? Most certainly not. But I do see progress.
to be clear, I do not like what Franken did in the past. Or hopefully in the past. But I appreciate that he at least apologized and the apology was accepted. That is an important part of an apology. Whether the apology was genuine and he has changed remains to be seen. As we have seen from Kevin Spacey, not all apologies come across as genuine. Excuses can be made. And sometimes the action is fully criminal, which requires more then an apology. Such as Bill Cosby. And some actions happened too long ago so that the law can not put a person in jail to pay for their crimes. So other actions have be to taken. I believe Moore could not be held accountable by the law for his actions years ago, but he could be held accountable by keeping him from a position of power. With 5 women stepping forward, I tend to believe them. Its more difficult with only one accuser, to know the truth. And that is something else we have to deal with. As for Trump, I believe that he is a womanizer, and we will all pay for his being given power. At the same time, it has so pissed off women that they are now speaking up. So good has come from having put a womanizer into the most powerful position in the country. Its funny how that works. I would rather we didn't have to go through a Donald Trump in power to learn our lessons, but if thats what it takes, then so be it. At least women are now taking back their personal power.
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Nov 17, 2017 - 09:10am PT
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GUILTY! Throw the bum out for Boorish behavior.
Heidi & I have come to believe that politics & power makes men hornier than normal. And absolute-power makes men absolutely horny & horrible.
Here's another example of preaching one thing to gain & retain power, & practicing another thing.
11/16/17 NEWSWEEK
An Ohio Republican state legislator who consistently touts his faith and his anti-LGBT stances resigned this week after being caught having sex with a man in his office.
Representative Wes Goodman, who is married, was reportedly seen by someone who is not a staffer having sex with a man inside his Riffe Center office. The witness told Ohio House Chief of Staff Mike Dittoe of the situation early Tuesday afternoon, according to the Columbus Dispatch.
http://www.newsweek.com/republican-family-values-state-legislator-quits-sex-man-713821
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wheatBeer
Social climber
TheBronx
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Nov 17, 2017 - 09:30am PT
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Al Franken is an AWESOME senator.
Al is just messing around in the picture with a famous sex symbol and nude model. She sold sex for living. Franken did a candid picture and not even touching her.
Others like Trump, Weinstein, Moore, Cosby are true PREDATORS and Monsters.
""Al What Al Franken did was inappropriate. He has apologized, the apology was accepted, and he has called for an inquiry into his behavior. Doesn’t excuse the behavior, but contrast that to the deny & attack approach employed by Roy Moore and Trump for more severe allegations. They both attacked their accusers. Deplorable.
Don't resign, Al. We need your strong progressive voice in the Senate.""
Agreeed!!!
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Nov 17, 2017 - 09:46am PT
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John M, I’m sure we both looked at the ‘16 presidential candidates and chose one after careful scrutiny of their qualifications. You picked Bernie, I picked Hillary. One reason was I wanted a Dem. woman in the Oval Office.
Last thing we need to do is fight that election again. The GOP has a civil war going, sure, but the Dem’s are maybe in worse shape. Biden? Bernie? We’re going to run and win with old, white guys? Maybe this growing awareness of sexual misconduct towards women will ignite a movement to put a woman like Elizabeth Warren in a position to win.
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John M
climber
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Nov 17, 2017 - 10:03am PT
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John M, I’m sure we both looked at the ‘16 presidential candidates and chose one after careful scrutiny of their qualifications. You picked Bernie, I picked Hillary. One reason was I wanted a Dem. woman in the Oval Office.
I did not choose Bernie.. I tried to warn that Trump could beat Hillary. You denounced that and made fun of me. Many many times. Over and over and over, even before she was the elected candidate, you said she was a shoe in.. You helped push her into being the candidate by pushing others to agree with your assessment. She will beat Trump easily you said.
You failed to heed the warnings, and then you blamed me for her not getting elected even though I voted for her in California, where my vote didn't really matter. I never backed Bernie, though I thought he was at least more honest then Hillary.
Our system will never have a chance as long as people like you keep your head buried in the sand all the while thinking that you "know" more. This will happen again. Next election? maybe not. But it will happen again because you, and even Hillary, continually blame others rather then looking at yourself.
Last thing we need to do is fight that election again. T
Bullsh#t.. unless you want it to happen again. People do not like Hillary. Some of it because of false accusations against her, but much of it also because she just isn't a good leader. She is great behind the scenes, but poor as a main leader because she does not connect. Even Bill said this. But could you hear that? Nope.. you went "la la la, Hillary is great" all the way to defeat. And then you blamed me.
Sorry dude, but you can kiss my ass. You put up another Hillary and I will not vote and now I live in a state where my vote counts.
Deal with it.
I agree when Werner calls you and people like you Crankloons. You are one because you never hear what people are saying. Your filters are so dense you can't. And then you blame everyone else instead of looking in the mirror and asking yourself why you thought she was a shoe in and why you did not heed the warnings. And instead made fun of those who gave warnings.
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John M
climber
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Nov 17, 2017 - 10:18am PT
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you make fun of me over and over and over, and then when I turn out to be right you blame me.
And when DMT laughs at your foolishness, you call him a jerk.
you are seriously clueless.
Franked apologized and admitted to being wrong. Something you don't seem to understand. Instead you blame everyone but yourself. Now you blame DMT.. classic narcissist.
its narcissism that gave us a narcissist as our president.
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c wilmot
climber
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Nov 17, 2017 - 10:27am PT
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Mormon missionary's do not wear blue shirts...or tan pants
Poorly executed meme..
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Nov 17, 2017 - 10:29am PT
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Funny how the left embraces radical Islam
and who is it on the left that embraces ISIS, the Taliban, radical Islam?
name them and just a few of the many ways they do so
going to get that pesky GED this year?
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Nov 17, 2017 - 10:35am PT
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The Hillary fans also used the term 'Obama Boys' during the 2008 election.
They are quite fond of deriding their dem opponents with names. Much like Trump did to his repub opponents.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Nov 17, 2017 - 10:36am PT
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Franken is 100% predator.
Look how many steps were involved in his sexual assault scheme.
Total predatory behavior/mindset.
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