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Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Aug 2, 2017 - 07:51pm PT
Interesting anecdotes again, no evidence. Plenty of well run studies proof the existence of white privilege, maybe you reject science as a big conspiracy by the Chinese?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/892920397162848257
Norton

Social climber
Aug 2, 2017 - 07:56pm PT
careful, you are real close to getting what you want

you have enough data, Terry, anytime you want go ahead - you don't have to ignore it
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Aug 2, 2017 - 07:57pm PT
Madbolter! Re your bull-schist remarks:

The really funny irony here is that the Democrats on this site that believe in "white privilege" are hearkening back to the era when Democrats were the racists! LOL

It's just white guilt stemming from their racist roots. But that era is long-past, and it's time to talk about present reality rather than four and five decades ago. "White privilege" went the way of Democratic racism; deny Democratic racism today, and you have to deny the white privilege that went along with it

Anyone here with an IQ over 100 knows that when the Democratic party embraced integration in the 1960's & the southern state racist Democrats became Republicans, there was the big "switch" when the racists became coservative Republicans.

Can you get over thinking the folks here that argue with you don't remember our history?
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Aug 2, 2017 - 08:51pm PT
the hand must now provide free tissues for traumatized white people like Mad Bolter and c wilmot

Nah. You confuse the stating of facts with complaining. Prolly cuz snowflake liberals spend about 22.3764 hours per day (including a lot of their dream states) complaining. It's just projection.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Aug 2, 2017 - 08:53pm PT
don't remember our history?

Apparently you don't. It wasn't in the 60s that the Dems began to wise up. Later than that.

You see, there WAS "white privilege." But over the past several decades that pendulum swung way over.

Now, if libs could get beyond the "victim" mode, we might start to achieve a genuinely unified society.
10b4me

Mountain climber
Retired
Aug 2, 2017 - 08:57pm PT
Prius have supplanted BMW as the biggest dicks on the road.

Ain't that the truth.
Jim Clipper

climber
from: forests to tree farms
Aug 2, 2017 - 09:08pm PT
wtf, life isn't fair?!
10b4me

Mountain climber
Retired
Aug 2, 2017 - 09:10pm PT
The silly assumption white people are born with some secret privladge is a racist assumption in itself.

I seriously doubt anyone who grew up poor would promote discriminating against white people and asians because of the color of skin they were born into

If that really is your background- then you should understand that poverty- not race- is what holds people back

And your accusations that anyone who wants to end such race based policies is a "whiner" - is nothing more than a childish insult. An accusation worthy of a bully


rolls eyes
Jim Clipper

climber
from: forests to tree farms
Aug 2, 2017 - 09:22pm PT
FWIW. Ward Connelly argued that it perpetuates discrimination. He stated that AA mostly helps suburban African American kids. He wanted to end it, and make economic status the basis for preferential college admissions.

Maybe..., corporate earnings increase, health care is getting the axe (while the wealthy get tax cuts), Wall Street makes records, but it isn't fair that minority kid went to college. Enjoy the social security and Medicare while you can.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Aug 2, 2017 - 09:25pm PT
LOL

What I find strange is that the perpetually aggrieved...

Classic lib-speak: Anybody that simply disagrees with the hand-wringing victimhood is "aggrieved." It is to laugh.

I'm doing just fine! But it IS a simple fact that I had to go WAY in debt for my Ph.D., when my black girlfriend was handed her Ph.D. on an economic silver platter. We had multiple conversations about it, and SHE talked with others she knew about what a myth "white privilege" had already become by that time.

Wake up, guys. That era went bye-bye long ago. You're living in a decades-old perspective that validate perpetual victimhood.

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rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Aug 2, 2017 - 09:28pm PT
Don't worry...The illegals are smarter than the stoopid American red-necks and will vote the Repubs out before SS and medi-care get cut and of course the stoopid red-necks will take the credit...
Jim Clipper

climber
from: forests to tree farms
Aug 2, 2017 - 09:33pm PT
Also, is creating a diverse academic environment with plural cultural and political experiences a worthy goal?

Considering that people from disadvantaged communities are more likely to return to those areas and help others, should they be preferentially admitted to college?
10b4me

Mountain climber
Retired
Aug 2, 2017 - 09:49pm PT

Discrimination in action
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Aug 2, 2017 - 09:59pm PT
You're kind of dodging the question, professor. Why did you need to go into deep debt when the UC system had exceptionally low tuition costs and you were on a teaching assistantship? Your story seems less than convincing.

Are you saying that I'm lying?

I guess you need to see my tax returns. LOL

Tuition is the tiniest part of the total expenses of grad-school in Santa Barbara. If you've not gone to a rigorous graduate program, then you don't know how consuming it is. Also, you get paid effectively nothing as a TA, because it's considered part of your "learning experience." You clearly haven't been there, so you're not qualified to judge what it "should" cost.

There are facts of the matter, and you simply refuse to acknowledge facts. The key fact that you're dodging is that my black GF got a free ride through the same school, while I paid and paid.

Today "white privilege" is a myth, and it has been for a long time.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Aug 2, 2017 - 10:34pm PT
Prius have supplanted BMW as the biggest dicks on the road.

hmmm, I just bought a Prius, but I hadn't noticed my dick as being the biggest on the road... (or any where else for that matter).

healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Aug 2, 2017 - 10:37pm PT
Today "white privilege" is a myth, and it has been for a long time.

Yeah, that for sure is what a lot of white folks tell themselves.
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
Aug 2, 2017 - 10:41pm PT
when my black girlfriend was handed her Ph.D. on an economic silver platter.

Maybe she was just smarter than you and eligible for more scholarships???


Susan
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Aug 2, 2017 - 11:01pm PT
Yeah, that for sure is what a lot of white folks tell themselves.

Yeah, the self-referentially fulfilling statement; no falsification possible. The "perfect" theory! LOL
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Aug 2, 2017 - 11:08pm PT
Maybe she was just smarter than you and eligible for more scholarships???

She might well have been smarter than me. However, the "more scholarships" she proved to be "eligible for" were all and only those she got for being black and female. Perhaps she wasn't smart enough to go for the ones for being smarter, so that she could have gotten even more free money. I don't know, and there's no point in speculating.

The fact is that she got a free ride for being a black female. As I said, even she talked with others about the myth of "white privilege," citing our situations as an exemplar. So, I'll do no more than she did and cite the same.

Of course, mine is just one example. But, you know, it's a catch-22. Anybody like me that talks about "other cases," is "just babbling second-hand, probably false crap that he's heard." On the other hand, if I cite what I know first-hand, well, then that's "just babbling about one case as if it can be generalized."

But my one case can be generalized. In my time in graduate school, blacks (especially females) were getting free-rides with full living expenses paid, while whites (especially males) were paying out of pocket, which invariably meant debt. Same with my experience as an undergrad.

At least in higher education, "privilege" certainly was not on the side of white males. Simple fact.

Somehow, though, libs feel better about themselves wallowing in guilt, and they therefore insist that everybody else feel just as "good" (and superior) as they do.

No thanks, mate!
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Aug 2, 2017 - 11:10pm PT
So, Crankster. How about you back up that ridiculous graphic with some FACTS about the ball-and-chain, the minefield, etc.? EXACTLY what do those represent and from what era?

I'm talking about FACTS of "systematic oppression" keeping black women out of higher ed or keeping them from succeeding in society. I'm talking about the MECHANISMS. Be specific.
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