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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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May 24, 2017 - 11:21am PT
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The real question..... Is Happiegal doing more harm then good these days?
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August West
Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
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May 24, 2017 - 11:25am PT
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Religions are not bad per se, they are bad when co-oped by the Authoritarians( right wing leaders)
Religions get worse when co-opted by Authoritarians. But a religions basic tenets can be bad. Formalizing patriarchy and having women be the property of males is evil.
Telling people that they were born poor because they were evil in a previous life and that they deserve to suffer in their current life because of that is wrong.
Sacrificing teenagers to make it rain is wrong.
These are fundamental tenets of some bad religions.
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drF
Trad climber
usa
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May 24, 2017 - 11:34am PT
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The real question..... Is Happiegal doing more harm then good these days?
Craig Fry is definitely doing more harm than good.
Constantly railing against anyone who opposes his viewpoint.
So much hate in that man's soul
The definition of bigotry
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WBraun
climber
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May 24, 2017 - 02:47pm PT
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The people here are rock religion fanatics.
OMG they say every day, I must climb, If they missed a climbing day they break out in cold sweat.
Then zombie out staring at rocks all day.
OMG OMG OMG .... where are rocks ...... where where where ...... :-)
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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May 24, 2017 - 05:06pm PT
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Ha ha
Says the guy who hasn't seen the outside of The Valley in 30 years...
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MikeL
Social climber
Southern Arizona
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May 24, 2017 - 05:40pm PT
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Well, look . . . many of us were raised in families that observed religious practices, and many of us became disillusioned with some thing or another about it.
It’s difficult to find something that one is not disillusioned by.
One can argue that would be a good thing . . . you know, . . . to become disillusioned.
Taking that notion to the end of the line means you must come to complete dis-illusion about EVERY THING. When you do, viola . . . liberation.
(I would hope we’re just not complaining because we don’t feel good.)
Be well.
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WBraun
climber
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May 24, 2017 - 05:48pm PT
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Lorenzo
I've been all over the world in some of the most remote places you'd never even be able to get to ......
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i-b-goB
Social climber
Wise Acres
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May 24, 2017 - 05:59pm PT
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We are ALL beings made in God's image, and God is in everything and the cause of all things but it depends on how YOU look at things if you can see it!
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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May 24, 2017 - 08:41pm PT
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Religions a good thing but the downside is that it attracts too many up-tight azzholes who want to control everyone ...
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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May 24, 2017 - 09:19pm PT
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Religion was designed, from inception, as a way to control people
I heard someone once say that religion prevents people from living a happy life
edit: the problem with religion is that you have too many purveyors who actually don't believe in what they are selling.
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nah000
climber
no/w/here
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May 24, 2017 - 09:47pm PT
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is the internet doing more harm than good these days?
couldn't personally say really.
does nuclear knowledge do more harm than good these days?
on a spiritual level: maybe?
is religion doing more harm than good these days?
non idee.
an, imesho, more important question: what difference would it make if any_one could actually know/say the answer to any of these types of questions?
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
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May 24, 2017 - 09:51pm PT
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Lorenzo
I've been all over the world in some of the most remote places you'd never even be able to get to ...... Shut down.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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May 24, 2017 - 09:57pm PT
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^^^HHahHHhaaha
One can argue that would be a good thing . . . you know, . . . to become disillusioned.
That seems a bit,,, you know,,,, immature?
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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May 24, 2017 - 11:48pm PT
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Religion was not created to control people anymore than corporations were.
I think people wanted answers and these things came about.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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May 25, 2017 - 05:38am PT
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"Religion was not created to control people anymore than corporations were.
I think people wanted answers and these things came about."
Religion/mysticism doesn't answer questions...science does.
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c wilmot
climber
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May 25, 2017 - 05:53am PT
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Science does not answer the questions of who we are, where we came from, or why we are here.
Another thing that has always baffled me is how people view science as being a human creation as opposed to a manifestation of god itself...
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MikeL
Social climber
Southern Arizona
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May 25, 2017 - 06:21am PT
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BB: That seems a bit,,, you know,,,, immature?
To be disillusioned is to be without illusions.
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Reeotch
climber
4 Corners Area
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May 25, 2017 - 06:33am PT
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^^^^ Then I strive to be disillusioned
We've had the great enlightenment, now get ready for the "great disillusionment" . . .
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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May 25, 2017 - 07:49am PT
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Another thing that has always baffled me is how people view science as being a human creation as opposed to a manifestation of god itself...
Since there is zero scientific evidence that god exists, that isn't too baffling at all.
Curt
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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May 25, 2017 - 08:00am PT
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"Science does not answer the questions of who we are, where we came from, or why we are here. "
You might want to take a freshmen level biology course.
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