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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
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Out Of Bed
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Feb 13, 2017 - 05:40am PT
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Really good read from outside our bubble:
You wrote an article for Slate in November, comparing the rise of Donald Trump with the rise of Adolf Hitler. Why did you feel the need to publish such a piece?
It’s very important that we use history to our advantage now, rather than finding in history taboos and ways to silence one another. The history of the 1930s is terribly important to Americans (and Europeans) right now, just as it is slipping from our memories. I was not trying to provoke one more fruitless series of conversations about comparability. I was trying to help Americans who were generally either shocked (people who voted against Trump) or surprised (people who voted for him, who generally thought he would lose) find their bearings in a new situation. The temptation in a new situation is to imagine that nothing has changed. That is a choice that has political consequences: self-delusion leads to half-conscious anticipatory obedience and then to regime change. Anyway, I didn’t actually compare Trump to Hitler, I didn’t use these two names. What I did was to write a very short history of the rise of Adolf Hitler to power without using his name, which might allow Americans to recognize certain similarities to the moment they themselves were living through. I know that these comparisons are a national taboo in Germany, but at the moment its rather important that Germans be generous with their history and help others to learn how republics collapse. Most Americans are exceptionalists, we think we live outside of history. Americans tend to think: “We have freedom because we love freedom, we love freedom because we are free.” It is a bit circular and doesn’t acknowledge the historical structures that can favor or weaken democratic republics. We don’t realize how similar our predicaments are to those of other people.
http://international.sueddeutsche.de/post/157058066625/we-have-at-most-a-year-to-defend-american
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Feb 13, 2017 - 06:36am PT
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NICE! John Oliver is back...
Faith vs Facts
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Feb 13, 2017 - 08:07am PT
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Feb 13, 2017 - 09:03am PT
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All I get is penis lengthening ads, and anyone west of the Mississippi can tell you that is the last thing I need!!
It's not so much about length as about girth.
I never see ads about that.
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Feb 13, 2017 - 10:28am PT
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Trump is doing pretty well in his first few weeks.
An interesting cross section of Americans seem to think so.
Curt
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Feb 13, 2017 - 12:19pm PT
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Feb 13, 2017 - 12:20pm PT
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The end result of this, though, is that our opponents, the media, and the whole world will soon see, as we begin to take further actions, that the powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial, and will not be questioned.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Don Lauria
Trad climber
Bishop, CA
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Feb 13, 2017 - 01:56pm PT
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I've survived long enough to have lived under the terms of Roosevelt, Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Papa Bush, Clinton, GW Bush, and Obama.
I wasn't necessarily proud of some of them, but Trump is the ONLY one that that ever made me feel embarrassed.
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divad
Trad climber
wmass
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Feb 13, 2017 - 01:57pm PT
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All I get is penis lengthening ads, and anyone west of the Mississippi can tell you that is the last thing I need!!
what you need is to post up a picture of your hands to verify this...
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Bruce Morris
Trad climber
Belmont, California
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Feb 13, 2017 - 02:01pm PT
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During the 'Twilight of the Gods' in Berlin in April 1945, there were those who still believed that their Fuhrer would save the 1000-year Reich. However, the Red Army proved them all wrong.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Feb 13, 2017 - 02:38pm PT
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If so far so good means having your national security advisor having shady contacts with the Russian ambassador, yeah it's all good!
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Feb 13, 2017 - 02:50pm PT
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yes Jody, yes, things are better these days.
it was tough under obama, I know.
things are so good right now, and it'll be even better when the spetznaz arrive
it will be great. terrific, even.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Feb 13, 2017 - 02:58pm PT
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what you need is to post up a picture of your hands to verify this...
I suspect Locker is cranking out a gem as we speak
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August West
Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
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Feb 13, 2017 - 03:04pm PT
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He's doing great, if you're deep in the military industrial complex, and don't mind destroying the Earth through war, pollution and famine
Any Republican (Cruz, Pence, Bush, etc) could/would have done that.
But Trump is degrading our institutions. Presidents criticize judicial rulings that go against them all the time. But saying judicial rulings are an illegitimate exercise of power, encouraging border agents to ignore judicial rulings...
Bush's you're either with us or against us, was bad. Trumps attacks on the international systems and institutions, like NATO, are really bad. That damage won't be quickly repaired.
If Trump manages to help break the Euro up, it will cause a world financial crises.
And the list goes on, and on, and on...
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August West
Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
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Feb 13, 2017 - 03:07pm PT
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I've survived long enough to have lived under the terms of Roosevelt, Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Papa Bush, Clinton, GW Bush, and Obama.
I wasn't necessarily proud of some of them, but Trump is the ONLY one that that ever made me feel embarrassed.
Nixon wasn't embarrassing? You sure about that?
Nixon's paranoia and corruption was bad. But Trump may very well do more damage to America. That would be quit the accomplishment.
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ecdh
climber
the east
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Feb 13, 2017 - 03:24pm PT
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My gut churns every time he descends those stairs to airforce 1 and gives that pathetic, gutless, wannabe salute to the real men obliged to marshall him.
The gutless f*#k wont even learn to salute. What else cant he be bothered with?
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Don Lauria
Trad climber
Bishop, CA
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Feb 13, 2017 - 05:16pm PT
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August West, the fact that Trump has the vocabulary of a five-year-old embarrasses me. Nixon's vocabulary was more adult.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Feb 13, 2017 - 05:19pm PT
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It was a unique time, but Nixon was the father of the EPA, which 45 now seeks to destroy with his oil lackey Pruitt.
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Feb 13, 2017 - 05:29pm PT
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I have a visceral dislike for liars. Habitually lying is not a good personality trait for a president.
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