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tuolumne_tradster
Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
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Feb 10, 2017 - 11:30pm PT
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Amerika's real president, Steve Bannon, cited Julius Evola in a 2014 speech at the Vatican...
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/10/world/europe/bannon-vatican-julius-evola-fascism.html
Julius Evola, photo from the 1920s
Born Giulio Cesare Evola to a noble Sicilian family on May 19, 1898, Baron Julius Evola took on many roles through his long and productive life. He served in World War I as an artillery officer, then became one of Italy's leading Dadaists. Shortly after dalliance in avant-garde and futurist movements, he became an occultist and embarked upon the career path of his mature work. After the first world war, he experimented briefly with hallucinogenic drugs and tantra, but later renounced both these forms of stimulation. During the early 1920s he published with the UR-group, an occult fascist society in Italy. Although he was often critical of the regime, Evola did not suffer greatly under Mussolini's fascists. During World War II, Evola volunteered with the German war effort as a translator of Masonic documents. He was injured during a Russian bombardment and confined to a wheelchair for the rest of his life. After the war, he continued to write and publish, getting arrested in 1951 for "promotion of fascism." He died on June 11, 1974.
from Wikipedia on Spiritual Racism...
It was this caste-based perspective that was developed in the 1930s and during the war in Evola's extensive writings on racism; for Evola, the core of racial superiority lay in the spiritual qualities of the higher castes, which expressed themselves in the physical as well as in cultural features but were not determined by them. The law of the regression of castes places racism at the core of Evola's philosophy, since he sees an increasing predominance of lower races as directly expressed through modern mass democracies.
on Fascism
Finding Italian Fascism too compromising, Evola began to seek recognition in the Third Reich, where he lectured from 1934 onward. He held hope in the Nazi SS, though took issue with Nazi populism and biological materialism. SS authorities rejected Evola's ideas as supranational, aristocratic, and thus reactionary.
Evola was also a climber.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Feb 11, 2017 - 07:26am PT
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So how is that Hillary for Prison thing working out for you Trumpistas?
When it's all said and done, trump, and/or his cronies will probably be occupying that spot.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 11, 2017 - 07:38am PT
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Trump assumed commuting sentences is changing words in the Constitution.
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Feb 11, 2017 - 07:41am PT
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I opened up Malemute's link to the Public Policy Polling link & got my first belly laugh of the day.
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2017/02/americans-now-evenly-divided-on-impeaching-trump.html
Voters think he's over reaching to make a country safe...that they already consider to be safe. 66% of Americans consider the United States to be a safe country, to only 23% who consider it unsafe. Perhaps as an outgrowth of that sentiment only 45% of voters support Trump's Executive Order on immigration, to 49% who are opposed to it. Among those who do support it you have to wonder how well thought out their position is-
by a 51/23 margin Trump voters say that the Bowling Green Massacre shows why Trump's immigration policy is needed.
That final sentence shows how dim the wits are of many Trump supporters.
To put it in Republican-speak:
Dumb! Them folks are et-up with dumb.
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Edge
Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
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Feb 11, 2017 - 07:52am PT
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Feb 11, 2017 - 09:02am PT
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The only shocking thing about all of this is that, given just how obvious of a trainwreck this guy would be if elected, people nevertheless elected him and continie to defend him.
I guess the other somewhat surprising thing is how much the Republicans have whored themselves out to this guy for their political gain. Apparently obsolute power does corrupt.
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Feb 11, 2017 - 09:20am PT
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Feb 11, 2017 - 09:51am PT
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Here is great example of Blatant Lying by Ted Cruz
He says this as way to defile Democrats because he's a despicable human
Ted Cruz: ‘The Democrats are the party of the Ku Klux Klan’
That statement could be called a fact 50 years ago, but is a complete falsehood at this time.
The only factual statement about the Party of the KKK would be that their party is the Republicans. There may be a couple of Democrats in the KKK at this time, but there has never been a liberal in the KKK.
The KKK Support Donald Trump, the KKK are far right wing racists, they support the Republicans, they vote for Republicans over Democrats no matter what.
This is so typical of the use of propoganda by the right wingers, blame everything you hate about yourself and your party on the other side, divert the truth about yourself to make yourself feel like you're on the right side, it's a way to lie to yourself to make you feel better, it's called Projection.
Lincoln was a Liberal Republican 100 years ago, then the parties changed, so now he would be called a Liberal progressive, that is a fact.
The Republicans are Not the Party of Lincoln.
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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Feb 11, 2017 - 09:59am PT
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Really there.... a "train wreck" usually is pretty bad, and usually includes numerous "cars." I am thinking the only thing you could list as wreckage would be "whining libtards."
Cosmic - humor me, and go along with y line of question here. Supposing - JUST supposing - the "whining libtards" proved to be correct in their concerns that our country is seeing a coup d 'etat in it's early stages. JUST suppose that we started to see journalists and professors rounded up(rather than simply having their reporting discounted, as in the current situation). Suppose it begins to become obvious to "more than just the whining libtards" that we are in real trouble; that our country is in fact being demolished.
At what point would you switch tracks and bail from the Trump Train? What WOULD have to happen for you to walk away from your blind faith in the current administration?
And forgive me for using the term "blind" faith, but I do so because I am not sure I have ever seen you write something demonstrably constructive about the actions that administration is taking. I am not exactly sure how one could, frankly.
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Feb 11, 2017 - 10:03am PT
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To respond to pud's video: I've traveled in Arab countries (more than once), so by that rationale I should be dead. Certainly there are populations that hate Americans and always will. I remember telling my brother in law Marine the same before the Iraqi war got full underway, since he beleived they'd be greeted as liberators. However, anomosity of some does not a terrorist make of all.
Trump claims that there is an emergency need for the executive order means that our country has been in grave peril for the many years before the ban was to go into effect? I don't think so.
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Vlad Pricker
Mountain climber
Alaska West
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Feb 11, 2017 - 10:30am PT
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Pud, that video is a bit disconcerting in that how do we know that guy is really in Iraq? I could make a similar video in Alaska, claiming the opposite of what that guy said and post it on You Tube. And I didn't think the Marine Corps allowed beards that length.
Also, another question for y'all on this forum. When does Alternative News become Fake News?
Mr Locker, that link...
the last paragraph
"It is a dangerous world out there — it's scary, like Vietnam," Trump said about contracting sexually transmitted diseases during a 1997 interview with Howard Stern. "Sort of like the Vietnam era. It is my personal Vietnam. I feel like a great and very brave soldier."
LOL, is Trump on the level?
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Feb 11, 2017 - 10:45am PT
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Norton
Social climber
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Feb 11, 2017 - 11:12am PT
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Feb 11, 2017 - 11:14am PT
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Locker! Thanks for that link to a fascinating article in a conservative magazine.
Why people believe Trump's lies, fake news, and conspiracy theories!
If you also have been wondering how Trump supporters believe his lies, Here's a link to some explanations in a conservative publication. In a nutshell ---- people tend to believe lies when they feel vulnerable.
http://www.businessinsider.com/why-people-believe-trump-lies-and-conspiracy-theories-2016-12
"The less control people have over their lives, the more likely they are to try and regain control through mental gymnastics," said Galinsky. "Feelings of control are so important to people that a lack of control is inherently threatening. While some misperceptions can be bad or lead one astray, they're extremely common and most likely satisfy a deep and enduring psychological need."
Trump or fiction
Of course, the more false the pattern, the more vulnerable you have to be to believe it. And of course, the more gymnastics your brain has to do to accept it.
Enter Donald Trump, a man known for spreading falsehoods. He captured the imaginations of many people who felt vulnerable about the past, present and future. Business Insider's Harrison Jacobs aptly pointed out that he won in parts of the country ravaged by the opiate epidemic — the 'Oxy electorate.'
Talk about vulnerable. These are also places of higher unemployment, where manufacturing jobs have been on the decline for decades. These are places where a rational structure is needed to explain why things got so bad and why they don't seem to be getting better.
But again this is not "rationality" here as we think about it in an economic sense — as a cost-benefit analysis. If it were, individuals would seek the truth no matter what their state of distress, because it is only when a problem is truly understood that it can be solved.
Indeed, Whitson herself has said that "s strategy is better based on reality, not tempting illusions."
Here's a relevant example. Trump has dumped on China over and over since he entered the national stage. He's said that we're losing jobs to Chinese manufacturing and that the Trans Pacific Partnership was "was designed for China to come in, as they always do, through the back door and totally take advantage of everyone."
In the world of facts, however, we know that thousands and thousands of manufacturing jobs have been lost to automation, not off-shoring to China. We also know that China is not involved with the TPP in any way. In fact, the country has been upset about TPP since talks for the agreement started.
The human desire to feel in control supersedes all of those facts, and in turn, pushes us to believe what may be irrational, but is simple, understandable, and gives us a sense of control.
Think about it: Say you believe all the lies Trump has told about trade, China and the global economy. It's a comforting notion, ultimately, because it means he also has the solutions. Voting for him, then, is a way to take control of that untruth.
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