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monolith
climber
state of being
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You should use smilies, Cragman, someone might actually believe you are serious.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Wait.... I thought mysterious evil spies from Russia (directed by Putin of course) are the enemy du jour?
The teevee tells me so.
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Brokedownclimber
Trad climber
Douglas, WY
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Whenever a mysterious event occurs, I always use the dictum, "follow the money." An explosion during a fueling operation is not logical, as the RP-1kerosene was already onboard; this happened during the loading of supercooled liquid oxygen (LOX). Tom's statement of some energy beam weapon cannot be ruled out entirely, or simply pooh-poohed as a "conspiracy theory." In addition to the follow the money approach, even the Romans in their Senate would ask after an assassination, "Que bene?" Who benefits?
There are 3 possibilities here: (1) the rocket had a flaw and blew up; (2) the satellite (loaded with hypergolic fuels, self-igniting) blew up; and/or (3) some sort of foul play. My above comments have addressed possibility (3).
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chainsaw
Trad climber
CA
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The minute I saw the explosion on the raw footage I was suspicious. Why was there a flash of high intensity radiation prior to the blast? And why was the initial flash perfectly symmetrical? I thought it must be an SDI particle accelerator weapon that hit the spacecraft. Typically, these rockets explode from the ground up. Not from the second stage prior to ignition. Then I started looking for more utube coverage and found the first 1/100 sec timelapse was blank screen!? Was this a coverup, I thought.... Then I looked back at the raw footage using manual slow mo on my Iphone and noticed an object flying by behind the scene just as the flash occurred! After more surfing I found some videos in slo mo that show a third generation stealth fighter looking object blaze by at mach 2 or better (ridiculous speed at sealevel). Just as the "UFO" passes the rocket you see the flash. The flash is WAY brighter than the explosion and makes a perfectly symmetrical chorion around the second stage. THEN IT EXPLODES. The explosion was a much lower energy light than the initial flash. From what it looks like, someone in our government doesnt want Africa to have social media communications because ISIS use them for alot of stuff. And certainly they dont want Isreal to control it. If the Isrealis built the comsat, you can bet it relays EVERYTHING to them for surveillance purposes. Im convinced this was US sponsored espionage. And more power to US. When the private sector controls the highground of space, democracy will cease to exist. I for one dont want men like Musk and Zukerterd to have that kind of power.
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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I was wondering why there was such a loud explosion when the payload
hit the ground. Not a small boom, that.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Outside the Asylum
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"Whenever a mysterious event occurs, I always.." reach for Ockham's (Occam's) Razor.
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nah000
climber
no/w/here
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^^^^
agreed... me too:
thanks obama!
[hahahahahaha... and obama as evil as they come? i don't even know where to start a response to that one... except maybe to say goddamn do i hope trump wins... he's the only "leader" who might just bring to fruition the type of world that that sort of thinking so deeply desires, instead of just continuing to flirt with half measures that continue to postpone an inevitable and increasingly painful reckoning]
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ruppell
climber
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Mighty,
Most conspiracy nuts have never heard of Occam's Razor. If they did, and used it in practice, well then they wouldn't be conspiracy nuts.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Outside the Asylum
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No, they'd cut themselves, and bleed to death.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Have they ruled out sparks from a Mt. bike pedal...?
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ruppell
climber
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Two very good replies gentleman. I'm still laughing. Thanks.
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Mtnmun
Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
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Looking at the explosion video over and over a little blip of light appears to the right of the right tower a split second before the explosion.
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Brokedownclimber
Trad climber
Douglas, WY
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Just refer back to Tom Cochrane's posts for the initial hypothesis of a high energy beam weapon.
Don't blame Musk; his company simply provides the delivery service of the customer's payload to GTO, where the satellite's own thrusters make the orbital adjustments.
SteveW: the satellite itself contained a significant load of monomethylhydrazine and Nitrogen oxides for it's rocket propulsion system. That went BOOM when it hit the ground.
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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probably a load of paste from Escobar, El Chapo found out about it, turf war in all probablillty, Caro Quientero would never do a thing like that,
or would he?
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Brokedownclimber
Trad climber
Douglas, WY
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The silence surrounding this investigation is deafening! Even a comment attributed to Elon Musk regarding the possibility of "foul play" has bee downplayed. Anybody else here heard anything?
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