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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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HAPPY, ? 4 th , of, JULYis that perma- draws?
flag @1/2 mast?
There are pills now
Ho, that's already been said
Thnx for this place ez
rock tight, I prefer flight to fight, but giving up is not in my make up
I carry when I think I need to
( ther's that scary 2, I Do ~ think & carry!?)
stay in sight of the road as ya get old
Or I have to anyway.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Jan, the Judge fires a .410 shotgun shell. Not a standard .12 or .20 gauge shell.
I believe the other round is a .45 long.
Pretty cool defensive weapon. But a little much. Be fun at the range!
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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If you are serious I like the idea of trying several models and styles. I like revolvers for their simplicity and safety. A S&W in stainless steel so you won't worry too much about corrosion in a less than ideal environment. A .357 can also shoot .38 which gives you more ammo choices. About 4" of barrel so it is handy but still relatively accurate. Rubber grips that feel good in your hand. You might even find a used one for less than 5 bills. And practice a bunch so you feel confident enough to hit something. Or not.
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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When we were in 3rd world countries Bev Johnson always packed a pistol.
Did she bring one with her and check it through Customs or did she acquire one at the location? Either way it can be rather difficult.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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DMT is speeding to Sports Authority for the 25% off all you can pack special....Don't forget the Pale Rider trench coat....
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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+1 for the laser. Mine blinds 'em with 550 lumens while painting them, or just paints 'em.
That's one huge advantage semi-autos have over revolvers - the laser mounting rail.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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I'm painting here!
I hate painting
It is like
Watching paint dry
The best overlooked issue is how hard it is to give up your weapons.
They are an amazing item, n ar boat stasis: A hole you pore money in .
With boats they sink you & you have to sell & still drown financially.
With guns. ?. . .
once you start pulling the zipper.
You just have to pull it down to see a little bit more.
At the range I joined I get to shoot all sorts of guns,
it is fun, a social event,
As parents we all like to see who is at the range.
I get , the wife & I get nods of approval,
Not saying that we, any of us parents,
ever talk. . About anything, but
We live 25 miles from the Sandy Hook school,
It has otherwise, good folks freaked out
These flat landers Iz's sheepel, & scared of shadows.
#Gun culture rhaRah! GoUSA!
#GunculturerhaRah!GoUSA
who said it ? The Darkside, or some
Strange power exists, things seem to swirl toward the edges where a gun feels right.
Mighty Right,
I'm not saying that it is a right or wrong thing
The nature of the way-out is that it is not full of opportunities
You / We often become targets of unwanted attention
I cannot say it loud enough, think/carry in the way out- out back
I bet that given the "What's Wrong With Some people, thread, this is not a troll.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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I'll play (can't resist a Milktoast troll, after all, he's been at it a long long time and is a considerable expert)
Brother Dingus!
did you actually mean "pistol" or more generally, a hand-gun?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pistol
as for running into people... it seems unlikely given your habit of finding remote places... and unless those places are on private property, you would seem equally unlikely of finding anyone there... on private property you are a trespasser and we all know what happens in the west to them...
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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I think its time I armed up for some of these remote trail heads and long rides across Nevada and such. I've had a few narrow scraps over the years where some firepower backup would have been nice insurance. I'm just saying.
DMT
I think Dingus is starting his own militia.
Probably going to hook up with Ron A.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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oh schist, ST, where's it at? That snap of the weedge snap rockin that coat?n glassezz?.
TDemon straight ing ingredients Genius at both ends of the spectrum at all times
Happy Father's Day to the Man -o - daddy-o wait it's the 4th of July.?!
Hmm? To those not showing up ? How about a Toker Villain Sighting??
& @ least this fits, the topic
Fossil climber
Trad climber
Atlin, B. C.
Jul 4, 2016 - 11:18am PT
I'd be a little hesitant about using the dove mix or #4 to discourage an incoming bear. If he's close enough for the mix to be effective, he's damn close - maybe too close for a second shot. And I'd hate to blind a bear which was making a bluffing charge.
To discourage a nuisance bear which is NOT charging the various plastic or rubber slugs work quite well - I've used them.
I know a couple of seasoned guys who carry 00 or 000 buck as the initial load followed by slugs, the idea being that a very quick shot on a serious charge may not be perfectly accurate and the buckshot spread gives a better chance of at least slowing him down for the slugs. The buck tends to spread about one inch per yard of distance. If he was right on top of you that tightly grouped mass of 8 or 9 30 cal. pellets would probably be almost as effective as a slug.
However, I'd still go with the bear spray for most circumstances. Light to carry, easy to use and hit with, and discourages the bear without injury.
yanked from the Bear Mauls wilderness educator in Alaska " or some such.
but Shotgunz? .00?, or.000?. Capsasin/Salt at 20 paces?
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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That ain't no trench coat...It's a pussy bathrobe...
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Give up on the idea of a "pistol" and go with this legal anytime anywhere prison shank toothbrush.
If you are cornered somewhere out there in the desolate wilds and about to be killed just say
" you wouldn't mind lettin a man brush his teeth before you kill him , do you ?"
It's then that you instantly put the cheapest form of lethality to the test and recoup and justify whatever price they sell toothbrushes for these days.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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I was up at Great Falls Basin, Trona, with Maya. Not the best neighborhood. The day was winding down. Sitting there we watched the dust cloud from an approaching vehicle slowly coming up the grade toward us. After a while up rolled a BLM ranger in his jeep.
He tried to strike up a conversation about the climbing there with me, but he was distracted, having difficulty keeping his eyes off Maya. Then he saw our tent tucked away in the bushes.
"You're camping up here?"
"Planning to. Bad Idea?"
"Do you have a gun?"
"Two Sir, both legal."
"Well, have a good night then.."
Good troll, you gave me an excuse to drum up an old story, and to refresh my memories of a drop dead beautiful woman.
FWIW I take a gun to the weird remote places. On the road it's locked in a case – ammo in a separate locked box. All safe and legal. None of that loaded under the seat crap. And don't get caught in Kalifornia after Jan. 1 with a detachable magazine bigger than 10 rounds. That'll be strike one (assuming you're not already a convicted felon :-)
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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FWIW I take a gun to the weird remote places. On the road it's locked in a case – ammo in a separate locked box. All safe and legal.
Me too. KInda sucks having to keep the ammo/gun separated, but this is California. And this dude abides.
BTW, I was THIS CLOSE to getting the shotgun and .45 rocking at the shuteye trip, but I wasn't in the mood to go find an appropriate place. PITA!
Our camp host said he knew of a couple of safe spots, legal firing conditions/no real fire danger. But the vibe wasn't right.
Have him tell you about being shot at while they were climbing up there. That's totally f*#ked up!
EDIT: I mentioned something from this thread and now my wife wants to go to the range and blow the f*#k out of some paper. Woot!
The range I like is private, closed to the peeps today. Dude wants me to join, which I may do. They have a great skeet range!
Sunnyvale Rod/Gun Club on the way out to climbing.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Killing machines?
The guns I own are beautifully machined craft-tools. And they're surprisingly easy to master, safely. They are very simple tools.
They are easy to tear apart, clean, oil, and re-assemble. Simple.
Many overlook the simple beauty of a well-crafted semi-auto handgun. They have entire custom-shops to perfect them, and add special touches.
Prolly why I really like Kimber's. But the old Springfield 1911 or 1991A2 are still simple, beautiful feats of machining beauty.
I guess like most things, it's an acquired taste. But my wife never dreamed she'd be asking to go out an fire my .45! Should've seen her eyes when she fired it the first time.
"Can I keep going?" Yes, dear, empty the thing!
Priceless!
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zBrown
Ice climber
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If you forego the brass, this model is rather inexpensive and really, who needs to knock a guy out when you've already shot him?
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dikhed
climber
State of fugue and disbelief
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prolly
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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That really get's you, huh, dikhead?
I use it as slang. Maybe I'll try to go back to proper english. Did't know it was that annoying...
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dikhed
climber
State of fugue and disbelief
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Like so many of the other dumbass phrases that climbers use but then I'm a dick head so...
prolly just me
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