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G_Gnome
Trad climber
Cali
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Sep 24, 2018 - 09:05am PT
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You know, what shows up on film does NOT necessarily reflect reality. You know this right?! Maybe the footage was missing from when Keven actually led the pitches. Maybe he did TR them. Since they said both led every pitch I would want to give them the benefit of the doubt.
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Batrock
Trad climber
Burbank
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Sep 24, 2018 - 09:28am PT
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I didn't know that both members of a two person team have to lead every pitch in order for it to be legit. I guess all those routes I swung leads on are bogus now, bummer.
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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Sep 24, 2018 - 09:33am PT
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Who leads what was presented crystal clear and dumbed down for the general public. They did not plan for both to lead all pitches. If you’re confused, ask someone with half a brain who saw the movie but doesn’t even climb. Frankly, nobody does that or ever has beyond a few key crux pitches - like the Salathe Headwall or some-such.
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Rudder
Trad climber
Costa Mesa, CA
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Sep 28, 2018 - 02:23am PT
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I liked it. And, I don't like anything. hehe
It was good, really well crafted. And, the candid moments and comments really made it.
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Rattlesnake Arch
Social climber
Home is where we park it
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Saw it yesterday in Las Vegas at the Regal Colonnade. Enjoyed it immensely. Theatre had some folks but wasn't too crowded. I hope they do well, I have nothing but best wishes for Tommy, Kevin and the rest of the crew.
One factoid I'd like to understand - the statement that it was "drier" at night. Actually the relative humidity rises throughout the night as the air cools. Possibly on a steep slope the less dense humid air is displaced by cooler, drier air from the higher elevations. Or maybe they meant that their hands didn't sweat as much when it was cold.
Any scientists care to comment on this?
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Saw it last night, thought they did a great job. I didn’t know many of the details from the time they were captured so that was interesting.
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Relative humidity is the amount of moisture in the air compared to the amount of moisture that the air can hold. When it gets colder the relative humidity rises because the air can’t hold as much moisture, but the actual amount of moisture in the air may be the same or lower. Usually when the temperature drops some of the water clumps up and falls to the ground as dew. So the relative humidity may be higher at night even though much of the moisture has fallen to the ground.
Or at least that’s how I understood it and welcome correction.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Outside the Asylum
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Oct 19, 2018 - 12:17pm PT
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Finally saw the full movie last night at VIMFF. Outstanding although again, as with Free Solo, some serious editing seems likely for the television version.
It would have been nice had they mentioned that the route that was climbed largely followed the line of the Wall of the Early Morning Light (1970), by Warren Harding and Dean Caldwell. With if I understand correctly bits of other routes. History. Although sneaking in Wino Tower was a good in joke. Also, IIRC that Tommy's father himself climbed El Capitan in the late 1960s.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Nov 26, 2018 - 09:47am PT
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”I simply respected all their choices/compromises and think it was great.” –Kingtut
Agree. Totally agree with your other points as well.
Watched Dawn Wall this weekend. Twice. Immensely enjoyable film on so many levels. Apart from everything else, thought Largo’s contribution was terrific, helping to piece it together nicely.
I’m glad I’m not in any situation where I’d have to choose which film, DW or FS, is best.
It’s funny strange so many fellow climbers mention their hands sweating while watching climbing clips. For me, my hands don’t sweat - they don’t ever, must be genetic - instead, for me, it’s my feet that do and sometimes, like in this film, I end up having to change socks or leave the bed sheets, lol.
Largo, great job!
At the end of the film there was a shot or two of Tommy's face, ala scruffy beard - tired/haggard yet visionary and determined - say steely eyed - that I thought could epitomize the explorer type, the risk taker type, the trailblazer type on which our advancing species and civilization has so dearly depended historically. Maybe I'll screen grab it if I can and post it here. Somehow it made me think of Lewis and Clark and the Discovery Corps, lol, and the sort of strength and leadership and character and personalities that that project and other similars took to complete.
Anyhow, kudos to all who made this happen. Grade A in my book.
P.S. As with Free Solo, I hope the powers that be release a Climbers Cut at some point. That would be the frosting on the cake.
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apinguat
Trad climber
kingfield, me
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Dawn Wall is now up for streaming/rental/purchase/download
Wanting to put the most back into the community I would usually go straight to the source but it is all hosted though larger platforms. Does anyone know which download option passes the most on to the climbers/film makers?
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Mtnmun
Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
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Jan 21, 2019 - 04:28pm PT
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The Dawn Wall played at the Wild and Scenic Film Festival this weekend in Nevada City. Tommy was there to introduce the film and to take questions afterwards. The house was packed and no one left until Tommy said goodnight.
It's no surprise it received the best adventure film award.
In addition Tommy stopped into the local climbing gym to do a meet and greet and to do a little climbing with the locals on Saturday afternoon. He is one classy dirtbag. :^)
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fragglerockjoe
Trad climber
space-man from outer space
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Mar 21, 2019 - 11:43am PT
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Wow! That was really cool. I just purchased the movie and watched it.
Kevin's attempts to climb across the traverse were really inspiring.
Tommy's an amazing person and John Long's commentary is encouraging me too.
I really like the movie and I am going to watch it again. Right now :-)
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crøtch
climber
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Mar 21, 2019 - 11:51am PT
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Streaming free on Netflix now.
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BruceHildenbrand
Social climber
Mountain View/Boulder
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Mar 21, 2019 - 01:08pm PT
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It is interesting that the folks at Reel Rock decided to digitally erase the cameramen out of the film(this is most notable with all the closeups during the filming of the traverse). They wanted the audience to focus on the climbers and not be distracted by seeing cameramen so close by.
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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Mar 21, 2019 - 01:41pm PT
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^ That IS interesting, Bruce. I can understand why they'd do this, but good info as far as viewing the film and wondering how they made some of the shots, knowing there's been some erasures.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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yanqui
climber
Balcarce, Argentina
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Mar 21, 2019 - 05:17pm PT
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^^^^^^^^^^^^
Agreed. Just watched Dawn Wall on Netflix and also saw a copy of Free Solo that some friends had. I thought both movies were really good (climbing films have definitely improved) but in some ways, I could relate more to the film about Caldwell.
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i-b-goB
Social climber
Nutty
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Mar 21, 2019 - 07:25pm PT
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Dawnamite! Tommy & Kevin did a stellar job freeing the Dawn Wall! The backstory and account of the ascent was compelling and gripping! Brilliant, two Thumbs up!
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BruceHildenbrand
Social climber
Mountain View/Boulder
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Mar 21, 2019 - 08:12pm PT
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Those of you who saw the film on Netflix were spared a couple of shorts that ran after the film finished. The first short was a quick clip of Tommy answering a few questions and telling us what he is up to now. The second short centered on what it took to film the movie.
Though I found both these shorts interesting, I thought they totally killed the vibe of the movie. We see Tommy and Kevin top on out El Cap and then the audience sits there for another 15 minutes or so watching this other stuff. Sure all us climbers will sit there and suck that stuff up because we will watch just about anything about climbing, but I think that was a total buzz kill for the general public.
The shorts should have been put in the "extra features" button on the DVD.
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Heisenberg
Trad climber
RV, middle of Nowehere
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Mar 25, 2019 - 10:25am PT
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Saw it last night and the footage is amazing, the story is deep and gave an understanding into the complexity of the climb. I'm kinda surprised that it didn't win any awards as Free Solo did.
Tommy is truly a class act and supporting his partner as a team was really cool to see the raw emotions.
I believe he intentionally dropped his phone, I would.
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