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mouse from merced

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The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Mar 18, 2016 - 09:22am PT
Underperforming in his underwear?

So like him! :0)
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Mar 29, 2016 - 06:23am PT

BASKETBALL 6:46 PM MAR 28, 2016

Updated Odds Of The Warriors Going 73-9
By KYLE WAGNER


I mean, probably? NOAH GRAHAM / NBAE VIA GETTY IMAGES
With the NBA regular season winding down, the Golden State Warriors are 66-7 and need to go 7-2 over their final nine games to break the 1995-96 Chicago Bulls’ record for most wins in a season. We have a guess for how this will play out: Our CARM-Elo prediction system says Golden State has about a 66 percent chance of getting there. But we’d be lying if we didn’t say that handicapping the Warriors’ run to 73 is just as uncertain now as it was a few months ago.

Our CARM-Elo NBA predictions use a combination of a team’s (pre-season) personnel and its past performance to estimate its relative strength. For most of the season it has tended to have the Warriors as a little more likely to run up on Michael’s Bulls than other prediction systems.1

As the season winds down, those predictions become less abstract and might seem to take on more tangible meaning. It ought to be easier to predict a team going 7-2 than 25-5, right? But there’s a circular sort of logic to forecasting like this. On the one hand, when the finish line was further out, any effects of late-season lineup-fiddling from the Warriors or their opponents were aggregated over many games. The system doesn’t know that Stephen Curry may sit down in the final week of the regular season because the Warriors secured a 1-seed, or because of a sore hamstring, or because of a bad run-in with room service sushi. But the estimated effect of a game or two without the MVP is smaller in the context of a full season. This can make forecasts from months out feel more precise, less vulnerable to natural rhythms of the season.

On the other hand, it takes a certain kind of willful omnipotent to guarantee that a team’s basic state — three healthy stars and the supporting constellations mostly intact — will remain unmolested by fate. The long-term outlook is always vulnerable to genuine surprise.

As it stands, with nine games remaining, we know the state of the Warriors going into this stretch — a little banged up, but still plenty good. We can be relatively certain there aren’t any big surprises left in the season, just the series of little ones we always knew were coming: The tension between chasing the record and run-of-the-mill rest before the playoffs, plus some nagging injuries to rotation players and the need to bonk the rust off of a few guys coming back from longer-term absences.

WINS AT LEAST THIS MANY WINS EXACTLY THIS MANY WINS
68 >99% <1%
69 >99 <1
70 >99 2
71 97 8
72 89 23
73 66 34
74 33 25
75 8 8
Chances the Warriors finish with:
Now that we’ve arrived at the precipice, though, the step from 72 to 73 wins seems as large as ever. Our model thinks the Warriors have an 89 percent chance to at least tie the Bulls’ record at 72 wins, but those odds fall 23 percentage points, to 66 percent, for 73 or more wins; 74 or more wins is a 33 percent proposition, but let’s not go getting greedy now. These projections also assume teams will play to win, which is uncertain for the Warriors, who can probably coast to a 1-seed, as well as their opponents, who will deal with all the typical late-season machinations for playoff seeding or draft position.

By all appearances, however, Golden State is fixing to up and do this thing.

Coach Steve Kerr said last week that the Warriors won’t be backing down from the chase, at least as long as the players want it. “Yeah, this whole idea of setting a record does make things a little trickier,” he said. “It’s the players who are setting a record. It’s not the organization. It’s the players who are doing it. So they will absolutely have some say in matters down the stretch in terms of how we approach everything.”
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Mar 29, 2016 - 07:07am PT
Sparkling record but San Antonio takes the crown.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Mar 29, 2016 - 07:46am PT
How so?
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Mar 29, 2016 - 07:52am PT
Obviously all his x's aren't from Texas.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 29, 2016 - 07:57am PT
I tend to agree with Jim on the basis that the Spurs play better defense and they've been
resting Duncan for the playoffs.
Inner City

Trad climber
East Bay
Mar 29, 2016 - 08:27am PT
Im a 20 year season ticket holder so my bias is obvious here.

I do think the Warriors, not the Spurs, are the team to beat. I agree the Spurs are the largest road block for the Dubs, but this thread title is either gonna be right or ironic as hell come June.

Spurs and Warriors in Western Conf Finals should be an awesome series...unless OKC steps up to Timmy and the boys in the second round...not impossible.

Go Warriors!

Last thought: Curry having one of the best seasons ever for any player, including Jordan!! I think he may be changing the game before our eyes.
monolith

climber
state of being
Mar 29, 2016 - 08:06pm PT
Tony Parker thinks SA may rest their starters in both games against the Warriors, even if it means losing at home.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/tony-parker-expects-spurs-to-rest-everyone-vs--warriors-in-april-010045537.html?nhp=1
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Apr 4, 2016 - 10:23am PT
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/15123546/scottie-pippen-predicts-1995-96-chicago-bulls-sweep-golden-state-warriors

Sunday night game final score

Trail Blazers 111
Warriors 136

For anyone who ever saw Michael Jordan play, this is a believable boast by Pippen.

BUT IT DON'T MEAN SHIYUT!
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Apr 6, 2016 - 11:41pm PT
Tuesday night's game...

Warriors 117

Timberwolves 124

Ouch!

Warriors let a 17-point lead go to waste and eventually fell short in OT.

Finishing a 4-game home-stand against SA Spurs on Thursday night.
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Apr 7, 2016 - 06:50am PT
Scottie Pippen is likely right. Those Bulls would beat the Warriors. That doesn't mean the Warriors suck, far from it.

The major reason? Michael Jordans' unstoppable offense? Nope.

Defense. Socttie Pippen and Micheal Jordan are the only back court in recent times that could not only play the entire game, but shut down 2 guards completely. Draymon Green benefits from the fact that due to their range, Steph and Klay spread the floor more than any other due since way before the Jordan Bulls.

In a series, the Warriors win a few but the Bulls take the series. Steph is awesome, like video game awesome, but he doesn't have to guard Michael Jordan every day either.....
Gary

Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
Apr 7, 2016 - 06:57am PT
Scottie Pippen is likely right. Those Bulls would beat the Warriors.

No way, man. Jordan and Pippen are both in their early 50s. The Warriors would mop the floor with them.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Apr 7, 2016 - 09:32am PT
The major reason? Michael Jordans' unstoppable offense? Nope.

Defense. Socttie Pippen and Micheal Jordan are the only back court in recent times that could not only play the entire game, but shut down 2 guards completely. Draymon Green benefits from the fact that due to their range, Steph and Klay spread the floor more than any other due since way before the Jordan Bulls.

People today who didn't watch the games back then have no idea how complete that team was. They had it ALL. Offense defense..inside and outside, fast breaks and set play. Folks also forget how good the Jazz were back then ..Maybe the second best team in NBA history. Stockton Malone Hornacek..

The best basketball and rules of the game where then ..I just cannot get into todays version of NBA ball..it's just not as fun to watch.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Apr 7, 2016 - 09:41am PT
Or flop and traveling on Stockton. Malone got his share of no calls back then too.

Watching those two team for 2 or 3 seasons pretty much ruined Basketball for me forever....

Well..Last years Finals was truly really good..both teams played a complete package defense and offense at high level.. too bad both teams were not at full health though.
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Apr 7, 2016 - 09:49am PT
Climbski,

That's exactly my point. I only mentioned Jordan and Pippen, but we are talking about the addition of Dennis Rodman (another Hall of Famer and quite possibly the most underrated player in the the NBA), Steve Kerr and Ron Harper (only to name a few).

The Golden State Warriors are indeed awesome, but from a team-based perspective, I don't think they would have much of a chance against the 95-96 Bulls because they've never had to play in the manner needed to compete with a team like the Bulls.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Apr 7, 2016 - 10:15am PT
Jordan Bulls in four!
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Apr 7, 2016 - 10:52am PT
the 95-96 Bulls

That's WAY more games than the usual schedule, Escopeta. WTF? :)

And that's not even a .500 winning percentage.
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Apr 7, 2016 - 08:22pm PT
That one game was big tho
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Apr 12, 2016 - 04:41pm PT
Yah, what a buncha jokers! Oakland? Hah!

http://fansided.com/2016/04/12/golden-state-warriors-72-wins-story-of-the-season/

Meanwhile, there are other stories this season, overshadowed by the Warriors' tale.
http://www.nba.com/video/channels/top_plays/2016/01/06/20160106-fastbreak-of-the-night.nba/

Lurkingtard

climber
Apr 12, 2016 - 07:00pm PT
The Warriors won't make it past the west Finals.

The Spurz will beat the Raptors in 6
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