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Lollie
Social climber
I'm Lolli.
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Besides, I don't think it's the kids raised without violence which becomes murderers as adults. It's those who got beaten.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jebus, the wives take a break from drinking to beat their hubbies.
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Lollie
Social climber
I'm Lolli.
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Do you guys drink through the day to celebrate New Years, er Continuation...time, Lollie? Just curious.
New Year. Yes, of course. We start at Christmas Eve and the rule is that you are not allowed to be sober until 13 days after Christmas, including New Year. The vodka is exchanged for champagne at the strike of midnight at New Years Eve. Children are excempt while still breastfed, they get their doses through the mothers. No exceptions, immigrants learn about it at arrival. If not acceptable, they're not let into the country. During this reign one is allowed to bet the children with canes if they illbehave and don't drink their booze. Fireworks for New Year's Eve isn't sold to anyone who doesn't have a strong smell of alcohol on their breath. The police use alcometers to make sure everyone is drunk when driving to the New Year parties.
And yes, all amasonwives beat the crap out of their husbands early morning New Years Day.
Anything else you're curious about?
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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I think there is a big difference between the threat of having a few slaps to your ass with a belt and getting beaten Lollie. Each kid is different and some do fine. But our culture of entitlement and enablement is way out of whack! Ha, play on words..
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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I read the wiki page about that kid and it describes his parents and some of their own shenanigans. The mother, in particular, seems out of control. It does not, however, mention whether or not they ever spared the rod. Ad by the way they are purported to have acted, I can imagine them beating their kids much more easily than coddling them.
Several years ago, I had the joy of sitting window seat on a flight next to a bratty young boy and his father, who had the aisle. The kid was throwing a fit, wanting to sit on the aisle and the dad was being pretty shitty about saying no.
At some point I asked the dad "Maybe he'd like the window seat? I don't mind switching." But apparently the dad wasn't having that. He'd rather yell at the kid for everyone to enjoy.
I thought, to my self "Gad, this kid is a snotty little fgk."
At the point where they make the "ready to head off put your seat back up and trays away" announcement, I noticed that the dad didn't do this. The kids said :Hey dad..." and he ignored him and growled something when the kid said it again. The dude just kept on in his own world, and when the attendant came by and said he needed to do so, he made some nasty remark to her.
He said whatever he said in EXACTLY the same tone the kid had been doing earlier. I felt pretty sorry for that kid, who was probably on course to getting his ass kicked regularly, just because he had a jerk for a da teaching him how to interact in the world.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Word is mom paid the little guys strip club tab while they were in Mexico. Cool mom.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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.24 blood alcohol check
70 mph in a 45 mph check
4 dead people he ran over check
1 paralyzed rider in his truck check
no jail time check
rehab at Newport Beach facility offering yoga, "equine-assisted psychotherapy" and mixed martial arts check
Why aren't the judge and the fukked up psychologist hiding out in Mexico?
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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If this would have happened in California the as#@&%e would be facing a mandatory life sentence.
edit: I agree with Tami; money (and political position) buys "justice" in our judicial system.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Lollie,
To fill you in. Ethan Couch is a kid who, a couple years ago, at age 16 killed four people when he crashed his father's truck into parked cars and people walking while he was drunk and speeding.
He was arrested.
In court, his lawyer successfully argued Couch wasn't fully responsible because his parents had done a poor job of teaching him right from wrong. So he was given a sentence more appropriate for a first-time adult drunk driver who never killed anyone, or even wrecked: Probation. Which means he's free to walk the streets loose, but he's subject to certain restrictions designed to set him straight, such as he can't drive a car during his probation period. He's not allowed to drink either, but being under 21, he's not legal to drink anyway.
Even though America is proud to be a Second Chance Country ( prove to us what you did was truly a mistake, and not of your character, and you'll earn a second chance ) this sentence pissed everybody off.
Like johntp said, he'd be done if he did this in California. Done, as in 4 x 15 years-to-life in The Joint, lucky to not be served consecutively. And that's before figuring in the time for the beer robbery ( How do you think he got the beer? 16-year-olds can't buy beer, so he robbed a liquor store to beer-up. ) He'd celebrate his 18th birthday with a long ( you've seen how big California is ) bus ride to adult prison in some place like Susanville. Or Blythe. Or Corcoran. His second chance would come in California - like after he's 40, if he's lucky. We voted in a law ( in California ) that punishes kids 14 and over as if they were adults for all serious crimes, automatically.
In Texas, where Couch did his crimes, they do things a bit different, apparently. Like most states, in Texas a kid is a kid until the day he turns 18, and anything he does before then is considered kid stuff.
Anyway, Couch couldn't behave himself on probation, and was caught on video partying it up with a bunch of drunken teenagers. Assuming this wouldn't go over real well with his probation officer, Couch and his Mom made a run for the border and lost themselves in Mexico, before probation could catch up with him.
They weren't too smart, because the Mexican police caught them. They brought Mom back to the US ( she looks just like Carrot Top ), but young Couch is dragging his feet. They'll have his ass back here before long, though, because Mexico wants nothing to do with him. Mexico doesn't like him any more than anyone else does.
Hopefully, Texas smartens-up, and sends him to prison for a good long time. Besides being exactly what he deserves, a couple decades in The Joint would do this young man a world of good. He's never been given any boundaries in life, so a secure, structured environment - where he will be on the receiving end of some intense hands-on treatment, both one-on-one and in groups, as well as constant aroma therapy - will enable him to grow, and blossom to his fullest potential.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Ethan had mixed martial arts in re-hab so he's good to go on the big house...
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overwatch
climber
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Rolling around on the ground with a guy = sex in the big house
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Ethan's "equine-assisted psychotherapy" will also come in handy, when the other inmates scoot him around the room, riding him like a human Zamboni.
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Lollie
Social climber
I'm Lolli.
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Thanks, Chaz. Appreciated.
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overwatch
climber
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That was an awesome post, Chaz
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Just wanted to add, the incident where he killed those 4 people wasn't his first brush with the law. He'd already had his second chance in my view.
Couch drove himself to school at the age of thirteen. When the head of the school questioned that practice, his father threatened to buy the school. At the age of fifteen, Couch was cited for "minor in consumption of alcohol" and "minor in possession of alcohol," after he was caught in a parked pick-up truck with a naked, passed out 14-year-old girl. He pleaded no contest and was sentenced to probation, a compulsory alcohol awareness class, and 12 hours of community service.
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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Kid like that all he needs is a kind word and some gentle encouragement and he would straighten right out. Kind of hard to bring all the dead people back to life however.
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rbord
Boulder climber
atlanta
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What the hell is wrong with the way other people's brains work in our social environment? Couldn't be just have splattered himself against a cliff so that we could all admire him? Other humans these days are just all out of whack.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Jan 28, 2016 - 09:05am PT
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CNN reports the Lil guy is on a plane. First Class with free booze?
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 28, 2016 - 01:14pm PT
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I'm glad he's coming home, it couldn't have come at a better time!
At this moment threads abound, like little proxy battlefields with the usual combatants going at it.
I think we can all hate this little, murdering sh#t-bag, like one big happy family.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Jan 28, 2016 - 01:23pm PT
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Yeah!
I hope he gets raped in prison!
Justice!
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