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pda2540
climber
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Oct 30, 2006 - 10:49am PT
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Heather does not seem to be typical dirtbag:
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G_Gnome
Boulder climber
Sick Midget Land
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Oct 30, 2006 - 12:17pm PT
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Like most 'so called' climbing writers, she probably can't climb any better than she proposes questions that she doesn't have a clue about.
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Climber 46
Social climber
Ottawa, Ontario
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Oct 30, 2006 - 12:53pm PT
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Dirtbags are the real climbers who have logged a ton of miles
on tough terrain. They have been up countless walls and have done so on a non-existent budget often without the all the gear that supertopo lists. Middle aged guys like me who work in a gear store, own way too much gear, and can barely make it up the easiest walls once every year or so know that the REAL CLIMBER is a dirtbag.
Cheers,
Doug
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Oct 30, 2006 - 12:55pm PT
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I'm fer 'em.
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H. Lea
Trad climber
Canada
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 31, 2006 - 01:13am PT
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Gosh, thanks for the photo. Someone has a little too much time on their hands...freaky!
Ya, I do look a little shiny in that one, but what can I say? It was Xmas and my parents were there, for God's sake.
All you negative, quick-to-judge herd of sheep... You're about the grumpiest people I've ever encountered. You think I'M stereotyping? Generalizing? You see one picture, follow one opinion and all of a sudden, you all know me. Would it make any difference if I tell you how many times I've packed my truck and gone away for months on end? No, probably not. Because I have clean hair and all my teeth in that photo, so I couldn't possibly have climbed barbed wire fences to break into showers, or helped paint the Climbers Ranch in the Tetons so I could live in their parking lot for a month. Oh, I could go on, but I'm already hearing the slander I'll get for 'blowing my own horn' or maybe I'm even making it up?
Lighten the eff up...
Why should I have to be the dirtiest of the dirtbags to write about the subject?
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H. Lea
Trad climber
Canada
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 31, 2006 - 01:20am PT
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Tarbuster,
I'll surely let you know :)
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kev
climber
CA
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Oct 31, 2006 - 02:36am PT
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Why not find out for yourself?
Quit or loose (perferable loose) your job, take 2K and go live in josh until April 1st.
Oh and you have to climb alot (and perferable drink alot....)
enjoy your budget
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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Oct 31, 2006 - 07:32am PT
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Two Thousand dollars, for 5 months living in the park?
That qualifies as Stylee Dirtbag(definitely tiny-TM'ed, since we have a writer looking for content on board) in my book!!!
It's a far cry from Luxe Dirtbaggerie(pronounced with a white trash faux french accent, also tiny-tm'ed) though, of which I claim as my milieu
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Crag
Trad climber
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Oct 31, 2006 - 08:20am PT
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Thanks for your post(s) Christian; I hope Heather along with others will read it in earnest. I especially appreciate your comments regarding dreams and following them. Based on your criteria many years ago I had a good 2-year vacation. I’ll never give up trying to live my dream.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Oct 31, 2006 - 10:59am PT
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I tend to agree Heather,
With the inherent risks outlined by Christian in publishing this type of thing along with the unintended outcomes.
The Rolling Stone published a similar thing in the 80's, Trip Wilson I believe was the Author, and a lot of people proudly came forth with a bit too much reportage on their errant behavior, thinking it was cool and funny. Well, for him it made a juicy piece, but it ended up as an open snub to the authorities.
I think you could write something meaningful, interesting, perhaps even productive to our collective goals but you may want to heed some of the advice rendered, respectful of the source offerings here on the forum, and very carefully navigate the minefield of the subject matter, so that you reflect values, choices, and dirt bag spirit on the one hand and pair it to respectful, low key, complimentary behavior as is most often required of the modern dirtbag. The game ain’t the free for all it once was and compliance with the hard won public efforts put forth by the climbing community at large and preserving our public face is of great importance.
Think Delicate Arch & Etc.
Cheers,
Roy
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WBraun
climber
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Oct 31, 2006 - 11:11am PT
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Christian
Thumbs up bro, thanks!
Werner
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Jello
Social climber
No Ut
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Oct 31, 2006 - 11:31am PT
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According to Elcap's criteria, I had one good decade of dirtbagdom - the 'seventies. It was the favorite time of my life, although there have been many wonderful times since then, as well(a couple marriages, the birth of my daughter, some great climbs, etc). I replaced the transaxle in my '63 VW bus, three times. What was the title of that classic old VW repair manual that used to be the bible that allowed us to keep resurrecting our bugs and van's? I wouldn't have the foggiest idea where to begin with today's cars.
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Brian Hench
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Oct 31, 2006 - 11:53am PT
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I like those HEPA types. They keep the dust down when I vacuum. My allergies have been much better since I have been using them.
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Jello
Social climber
No Ut
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Oct 31, 2006 - 11:58am PT
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I can't see the picture, BlinnyKnott...
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Jello
Social climber
No Ut
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Oct 31, 2006 - 12:15pm PT
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Beautifull bus, eKat. Made me smile...
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Michael Kennedy
Social climber
Carbondale, Colorado
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Oct 31, 2006 - 12:22pm PT
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Tom Merrill, aka Cardo, after a few days on the West Face of the Titan, Fisher Towers, UT, 1975 or so.
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H. Lea
Trad climber
Canada
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 31, 2006 - 12:23pm PT
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Supertopo friends and others,
The article will not harm or exploit you and your lifestyle. It simply isn't about that. If possible, I will post it somewhere so you can read it and breath a sigh of relief, perhaps even wonder why all the fuss?
And by the way? I think I made, at most $1000 last year writing for magazines, so, ya, I'm really out there for the money...
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H. Lea
Trad climber
Canada
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 31, 2006 - 12:25pm PT
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Jello, Bliny and Mr. Kennedy,
Love the photos... :)
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Jello
Social climber
No Ut
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Oct 31, 2006 - 12:26pm PT
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MK- Now THERE'S A REAL DIRTBAG! How are you, old man?
-Jeff
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H. Lea
Trad climber
Canada
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 31, 2006 - 12:40pm PT
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Cheers Christian,
Agreed full heartedly. The article is about exactly that: government crack-down, along with high gas prices and other logistics. Wish I'd had a chance to say that from the start - too late now.
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