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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Sep 14, 2015 - 08:00pm PT
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I'd never quit.
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frog (the real frog)
Gym climber
San Diego
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Sep 15, 2015 - 12:02am PT
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Jstan ... sent you a pm a while back ... guess it was while your email was inop ... I drove the truck on the "stolen bumper patrol" couple years back and Sandy 'n I shared afternoon lunch/ice cream bars with you last year ... we have room on our site in Upper Pines (32) starting Monday for 8 days ... would love to share ... pm me or talk on here ... Mike
As for "quitting" ... Mar '06 ... closed the door of our business about noon ... locked the door ... mailed a key to the new land owners ... 11 hours later boarded a plane to Singapore to visit kids/grandkids, Krabi, F1 in Malasia, Australia, and North Vietnam ... retired ("tired 'n un-employed") ever since - keep gettin' further behind by the day ...
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Sep 15, 2015 - 04:47am PT
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Your picture or POD on the Balconies! Wee oo that was a spicey lead on button heads!
I refer to the picture 'cause that photo is what I might do if I were you good Eye classic shot of a classic. Can I post that picture is it okay? Well here it is
thanks for that it is a great picture yo;)right of that is my hardest send evha,
Ranger Bolts. . ? I think it was called an early Sharma rig.
Almost, immediately I would change my body clock, take the new time set up to re-evaluate
Life's needs. Reduce the - 'whatever', and simplify. Then pack up and head for Tahoe, oh wait
I smell smoke, so maybe Telluride. :), um I still smell smoke just of a different KiND, still too much smoke, so maybe the BVI and A place Called Peter Island, better than Bora Bora, and a short sail away from the incredible Virgin Gorda. This is as per the thread was leaning if it is
Quitting what chains you. If your ability to free your self and do dreams ? Then yes, as 'Mike'
Said, go big be savvy and be ready, but go big and follow your dreams in a descending order of Magnitude, Munge a tude.
WwBBd=What would Burt Bronson do? & Brutus of The Wide ?
That Blatchy Flake trip out of this world report?
How strong are you ?
Baffin Island ? Lotus flower Tower ? The Ruth?
Kill me know a sprite just spent the summer on the death wall! (EIGER?)
I Still want to climb the North Easts' El Cap; Point T.?Trinatay . .? or The big Mother it self.
Then there is this little nurse I might try to chase around the Sierras . . . If the smoke clears.
Stalking that eigerwand sprite might be in the cards or just some strange on a regular basis. the only drug I regret not trying? That blue pill y'all get regular.;o
Only 'cause he is not
The real frog he is not
THE REAL FROG, you ask?
FROM RAY OLSONS GARAGE
FROG ! from SoCal last I could find. . . On the Woodson thread I think, from 2004?.
where is the real frog?? not named Mike
Not meant to harsh your thrill at calling yourself what you will,
gotta stick up for an important piece of history of the Ditch though.
so sorry if it tweeks ya'
The offer to Jstan is, as are all of your posts that I have seen,
both well worded and sincere,
It just seems that between you and the Kermit avatar,
we seem to have lost a Star.
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steve s
Trad climber
eldo
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Sep 15, 2015 - 05:35am PT
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Uhhhhh........go climbing
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doc bs
Social climber
Northwest
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Sep 15, 2015 - 06:59am PT
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I quit my job this Thursday and will leave for the valley on Friday - yeah!!! hopefully it will snow a lot this winter while I am looking a new job :)
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Sep 15, 2015 - 08:42am PT
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I suppose the very first thing I'd do is return my equipment to the company I worked for.
However, when I got home, I'd probably open a beer and watch more TV, likely The Price is Right or Wheel of Fortune.
Shortly after that, I'd sell as much crap as I could on eBay and give everything else I didn't absolutely need to Goodwill.
Then I'd reinvent myself.
At least that's what my past few New Years Eve resolutions have been.
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frog (the real frog)
Gym climber
San Diego
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Sep 15, 2015 - 12:30pm PT
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Gnome ... my granddaughter dubbed me "the real frog" ... and in my realm that is sufficient ..... should some impostor enter here, he will be quickly dispatched by said granddaughter and family ....... within the ditch (and ALL places) within their presence I am and shall be addressed as "frog" ........... though our clan history in the ditch dates only from about '83, I am proud to say all the progeny have adopted the yearly (at least) tradition and are instilling a love for the place to all new-comers ................................. so this impostor of yours may have climbed more (didn't start 'til my 50th year - first climb was in the ditch) but he is only "frog" - NOT "(frog the real frog)" ... and he Can't be much older than I .......
frog (the real frog)
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Captain...or Skully
climber
Boise, ID or the fricken Bakken, variously
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Sep 15, 2015 - 01:48pm PT
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Right on, frog(the real frog). Granddaughters are indeed a naming authority.
As for the OP, I'm not planning on quitting, so it's hard to imagine....die, I guess......
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jstan
climber
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Sep 15, 2015 - 09:12pm PT
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Jstan ... sent you a pm a while back ... guess it was while your email was inop ... I drove the truck on the "stolen bumper patrol" couple years back and Sandy 'n I shared afternoon lunch/ice cream bars with you last year ... we have room on our site in Upper Pines (32) starting Monday for 8 days ... would love to share ... pm me or talk on here ... Mike
That bumper patrol was a true adventure. Great to hear from you. Let's do it next year. I'll email you once I get a new computer with email.
Right now we have to find successors to the leaders of the two biggest volunteer groups in our area. Frankly I don't add that much to Facelift and we have a lot of work to do here.
I have to fit into one of the groups, we need to make big changes in the other and the Yucca Valley group is awesome. Also I have just joined a third group. Doing close to two pickups a week. And we are building a relationship with the Mojave Desert Land Trust, that has just gone to escrow preserving yet another square mile.
Fast and furious here. Next year!
John
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Mark Sensenbach
climber
CA
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Sep 15, 2015 - 09:59pm PT
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I think it is an illusion to quit. I would try and find a job you perhaps enjoy more. In the end it seems Jim Morrison had it with 'no one gets out alive'
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 15, 2015 - 10:51pm PT
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It's set on "stun" just like my phasers! :)
We may not get out alive, but we can live long and prosper in our own ways as opportunities present.
GET SOME!!
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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After years of misery, I am pulling the ripcord in the next week or two, with an exit date around the end of March, mid April at latest. They kept wanting to do more with less, and kept cutting my staff. Well, it's time they tried doing it with less - of me.
So I'll let you know soon, but I think the very first thing I'll do is breathe a big exhale of relief at getting out of my disastrous, soul-destroying job situation. Then probably pull a couple bong loads (since I'll no longer work for "the man" where I am subject to random tests), crank up some Duane-era ABB, and start plotting on hitting the crags and boulder fields of the western US.
It's a huge relief having made the decision. But three months is a fairly long notice period (my job will be very hard to transition, and no existing employees can slide into the spot, they will have to recruit externally, so no real overlap). I'm not sure it's going to work out very well since I don't have a great "filter", especially when I am on the way out, and my boss is a vindictive, plotting, backstabbing crazy person who's been sued multiple times for hostile workplace and EEO complaints.
I'm in a leadership position in a fairly niche subject area. The job is hard to transition, and has serious short and mid term potential to impact operations. I'd love to walk in, drop my papers tomorrow and walk out never to return. But I feel like I owe them an orderly transition, at least as orderly as I can make it and realistically that will take a few months. I don't care about what the boss has to deal with, but don't want to screw my soon-to-be former colleagues.
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Funny, I was just thinking of this driving into work today, feeling kind of blah and burned out.
I think it is an illusion to quit. I would try and find a job you perhaps enjoy more. I think for many of us, this is quite true. Even if I could "quit", I'd still need to find some kind of purpose rather than being on a habitual vacation. Don't get me wrong: that would be awesome for probably a good long while, but then I'd have to find something else to do, whether it be public service or the like.
Before that though, I'd sleep in alot, which I have rarely been able to do the past 12 yrs. or so with kids, and road trip and climb. Climb alot until I got bored of it, then find my something else.
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Moof
Big Wall climber
Orygun
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Got laid off a dozen years ago with a decent severance. I gave notice on my apartment that day. Spent the 30 days culling my life down and buying a camper. Spent 10 months on the road mostly climbing till the money ran short.
Best year of my life.
No I am cal calculating retirement, and it is huge motivation to cut expenses and max out savings so I can pull that day in closer. Hoping to get off the treadmill while I can still drag my carcus into the backcountry and up Jtree moderates.
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Tung Gwok
Mountain climber
South Bend, Indiana
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Ski, ski, then ski some more. When the snow goes, climb.
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T?S
Trad climber
Reno, NV
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I have a very similar story as Elcap... However I don't work for what sounds like a large corporate entity as Elcap does, but rather a small operation with big aspirations. I started the job only two years ago working at menial tasks, and have since replaced three employees, but of course the doing more with less mantra has rung oh so true at my company, and now I'm simply doing the work of three full-time positions.
My climbing partners suggest I quit all the time. I suggest to my girlfriend that I quit all the time. And somehow I still keep working these 80 hour weeks, (my last day off was thanksgiving, before that sometime in october) which, at my low grade salary, earns a poverty level hourly wage. But there is a faint promise of the company truly taking off. What to do?
I've done the drive off into the sunset thing, climbing around the states and even the world (Thailand) for half a year, and it was fun. This stage of my life, however, was supposed to be the"growing up" phase.
What's the right answer? Do you just keep grinding hoping things will get better? Or do you take aggressive action, quit and walk into the unknown?
For me, it's never been about getting the huge salary. Or living out of a van forever. All I want in my work life is a true work/life balance. I'm beginning to question whether or not it exists. Every job I've ever had, I just get more and more responsibilities until it's too much and i spend a year hating and questioning my life before i finally snap and quit. Never does the pay, or more importantly the benefits (time off, flexible scheduling) follow the rate at which the responsibilities rise.
Elcap is a bigger man than me if he can just make that decision to leave, in his head, and execute. Ive been telling myself that im done here for much too long, and yet i am still here.
A wise man once said, "The key to life is not success over failure. We are designed to fail. The key is to realize when you are failing, and fail quickly." Its a mantra i keep in my head constantly, but am horrible at executing. Am I failing? Or am i just a big puss?
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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T?S, interesting quandry. I'm glad I dropped off the face of the earth for a while when I was younger, but I also look back at that time as a massive lost earning opportunity, since it probably took me about 10 yrs. to get back on track with earning my full potential in my career. Had I stuck with my job (or perhaps a similar though better one elsewhere) and continued to save the way I had been, I'd be far more financially secure and far closer to retiring with a far amount of time ahead of me and energy. Now, I'm doing OK financially but will be working well past 65 to support my family. Had I worked more and invested more sooner, those investments would be working for me now.
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Moof
Big Wall climber
Orygun
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I'm in a leadership position in a fairly niche subject area. The job is hard to transition, and has serious short and mid term potential to impact operations. I'd love to walk in, drop my papers tomorrow and walk out never to return. But I feel like I owe them an orderly transition, at least as orderly as I can make it and realistically that will take a few months. I don't care about what the boss has to deal with, but don't want to screw my soon-to-be former colleagues.
Expect that if they laid you off you would likely be walked out immediately. Giving 2 weeks notice is standard. Let them offer a retention bonus for sticking around longer, often this can be significant if you are as important as you think you are. My experience is that I am a lot less important than I think I am.
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Moof
Big Wall climber
Orygun
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My climbing partners suggest I quit all the time. I suggest to my girlfriend that I quit all the time. And somehow I still keep working these 80 hour weeks, (my last day off was thanksgiving, before that sometime in october) which, at my low grade salary, earns a poverty level hourly wage. But there is a faint promise of the company truly taking off. What to do?
Work your 8 hours and go home. Let stuff come crashing to the ground. If the work is that important they will get more folks on it. Odds are you are simply enabling a broken organization, or a failure of a manager. Inadequate resource planning is not your fault, but your management's fault.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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I can't remember.
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