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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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G Davis...Sorry for being inconsistent...My subscription to National Enquirer expired...And furthermore , I dare you to call Manny Pacquaio a chick....
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Manny isn't a 'chick' he's a duck...er.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Of course Manny isn't a chick, Floyd never even hit him ;D
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couchmaster
climber
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She's hot. But the lot of them are all extreme attention whores.
Jus' sayin'
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Anybody have this show up in their Google-adspace this morning?
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Between GD's post above, and this one from Ksolem, the nail has been squarely hit, flattened, and driven perfectly into place.
"One of the underlying principles of the Declaration of Independence is self ownership. Liberty is based on this fundamental concept. Self ownership is a natural law - a right which is not given and cannot be taken away by government.
On the one hand I cannot imagine doing what he has done. On the other I admire him for having the balls to do it, and not hide from his choice."
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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But the lot of them are all extreme attention whores.
Indeed.
A continuation of their sleazy (but profitable) business model.
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rockermike
Trad climber
Berkeley
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"Those kids that are weighing their options,..."
I just hope some 18 year old feeling out of place in his male body doesn't take Caitlin's overly publicised example to heart and decide to take a razor to his dong..... only to change his mind 15 years later when he decides he really wants to be a father. Those suicide stats can cut both ways.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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I probably already checked him or her out on the beach's in Malibu...
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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I just hope some 18 year old feeling out of place in his male body doesn't take Caitlin's overly publicised example to heart and decide to take a razor to his dong
Don't reduce their struggle to body parts... whether people decide to keep or alter their genitals is their choice. Hint - not all trans people go through surgery, not all go through hormone treatment, it isn't a "One size fits all" thing. If that 18 year old is weighing his options between killing himself or allowing himself to be who he is, I think the second is always going to be the better option. I guess you don't?
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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"You mean you've been tee'ing up from the Women's tees all this time!?!"
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nita
Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
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Rockermike, show me some stats for your proposed hypothesis...
I am sure there are some children that may be going through phases, and some children that are possibly gay...but.
Transgender kids are aware of their gender identity issues at very young ages...... The profiles of children with solid gender identities issues.. are very persistent and insistent about who they are.
i am joining in this conversation because, through out my life i know three transgender people. One out of three of the transgender adults i know, are attention seeker..that is probably inline with the non transgender population.
A little empathy goes a long way.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Well said, GDavis.
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Moof
Big Wall climber
Orygun
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Live and let live.
After all, we even let sport climbers call themselves climbers around here, and that is far greater of a difference in manliness than being discussed here.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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What else can you expect from a reality show "star?" Someone who has been in the limelight all of their lives is not going to change because of a change in gender.
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MikeL
Social climber
Seattle, WA
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Biology is NOT destiny. (Gloria Steinem was wrong.)
Liberation is a wonderful thing, in any form.
. . . . the lot of them are all extreme attention whores.
It can look like that from the outside; from the inside, it might look like unrestrained spontaneity, authenticity, and freedom. I agree that it can look like a lot of manufactured drama, but then again most people living the straight life are boring as hell.
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the albatross
Gym climber
Flagstaff
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Trans people are the most marginalized people in our country bar NONE.
The suicide rate is 1 in 7.
Not to marginalize trans people and the challenges they face, but another large section of the US population has extremely high suicide rates particularly among their teens. That being the Native American youth.
"Native teens experience the highest rate of suicide of any population group in the United States".
http://www.aspeninstitute.org/sites/default/files/content/images/Fast%20Facts.pdf
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jstan
climber
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TFPU the Harold and Maude clip. A very important flic.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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pffft, women drivers,...
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
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Dononi said ...
Jun 1, 2015 - 04:55pm PT
Forget the gender....looking damned good for a 65 year old!
She's a Christian, conservative republican.....wonder what her peer group thinks?
Ah, no he isn't a Christian ... false. What does G-d have to say on the matter?
What does the Bible say about transsexualism / transgenderism? Is gender identity disorder / gender dysphoria the result of sin?
http://www.gotquestions.org/transsexualism-gender-identity-disorder.html
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