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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Interesting, the Climate Change thread at long last became civil (after months of having to slog through some of the forum's most egregious posters, who finally got banned), and for some reason it freezes?
Question: How will you tell when threads degrade into war mongering? I suppose you'll have to carefully monitor all the hot threads to see which ones are poppin' and spittin'.
What next, the Arc on the Dark Side of the Moon will soon be frozen too I guess, as well as Largo's Mind?
A while ago, I suggested Yellow Cards for the folks who slung doo-doo. But I suppose it's easier to shut down [ot] topics that bring out some emotion. Now somebody will have to start chopping bolts, or put up All Grown Up Again #2 to get some spit and vigor back into this place.
... please refrain from starting politically oriented threads on SuperTopo ...
Just in time too--the Election Season is opening!
Carry on folks.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Bravo. A good move.
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MisterE
Gym climber
Bishop, CA
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I deleted stuff - I am a simple man that is cornfused by the vastness of it all.
Erik
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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If this idea of censorship were a tin can, I'd shoot it.
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phylp
Trad climber
Upland, CA
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Thanks Chris.
It's a good thing to try.
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Freeze away, most of us will be happy to see the OT threads drop off the front page.
Anything in them can be found on google anyway, they were mostly copy+paste wars.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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If you want to kill it, you can kill it right now.
Just start spewing personal attacks on it, and it'll freeze.
You've got the Heckler's Veto now.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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... they were mostly copy+paste wars.
I'm not so sure about that.
This is the type of information that was shared on the Climate Change thread, recently posted:
California's conifer forests have a completely different fire ecology. Natural frequencies of occurrence of fires are much much shorter than in chaparral, on the order of 15-25 years for the majority of the state (maybe not including the wet northwestern part). But these formerly frequent fires were almost entirely ground fires, not stand-replacing. The whole forest is still standing there, with nearly the entire canopy still growing; only the shrub and ground layer, and litter, was consumed. So the ecosystem remains largely the same, except for a few fire-follower plants and birds. If the vast area of conifer-shrubland, and maybe even a lot of the lower west slopes were to become warmer and drier such that there is type-conversion to chaparral, you'd still have the higher frequency of natural ignitions, combined with vegetation cover that produces completely stand-replacing fires. That would be a really, really gigantic change for the state's lower montane and foothill ecosystems, likewise for the already stressed watersheds.
Who knows what other regional changes would occur, for example in the Great Basin.
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Delhi Dog
climber
Good Question...
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Looked like a chick to me:-)
What did YOU see in that photo?
Bye, bye!
Eggsackly,
nyuk nyuk..
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there say, Ed... hmmm, as to you wanting to share some information, as to the climate thread, is it a good or bad idea, to start a thread that contains LINKS to climate-changing information... ?
edit:
hmm, or could you add it onto, another thread, that has other links, that share about anything similar?? (just curious) ...
would that be something that would help, and yet, not have the same trouble that the other thread had (i don't know, as, i did not post there? unless i visited it once?)...
not 'restarting' any trouble, but, just starting a links type thread?
many folks DO enjoy seeing your info... so i was curious...
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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This is the type of information that was shared on the Climate Change thread, recently posted:
Wait, were you trying to prove my point? California fire ecology can be found on other sites that are not intended to be sources of climbing information. Debates on forums are mostly people looking stuff up online that fits their view and then posting it. That's why debating is more fun/scary in real life.
I love discussing OT as much as the next person, and my undergraduate and graduate degrees are both in ecology, but that thread dropping down will open up front page real estate to something that this site is intended for.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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DanaB Yay! Thank you ST gods!
rottingjohnnyglazed eyed zombies...? That has personal attack written all over it...
Anita514White people problems
Proscribe theology.
Proscribe mentioning drugs and their effects.
Proscribe racism.
MFM in a decision-making moment."The climate on ST is changing."
"No, you're just becoming an old hidebound fart, Mouse."
"Namaste, self, namaste."
I'll be watching you three and myself...
God be with ST and on the side of moderation in all things...
excepting BOOBS!
And Locker. Never change, Locker. Please. :0)
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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Attempting to control the environment that is supertopo destroys it's essence.
Everything that lives...
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rwedgee
Ice climber
CA
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Dump the political threads or rename the site Politopo and quit reviewing shoes and other climbing related products nobody left here buys that shite.
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jonnyrig
climber
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Maybe you could freeze users who contribute no climbing content.
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
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All forms of free exchange of information and search for truthful sources are experiencing concerted well-funded attacks from establishment sources. It is clear that the major media outlets can no longer be trusted and perhaps never could. Supertopo regulars should recognize that this forum has become an important source of knowledgeable news and information exchange and is thus a target for such attacks. We don't necessarily know all the challenges that Chris has to handle in this regard. Some of those challenges are no doubt caused by immature and irrational contributors. Others may be intelligently orchestrated attacks masquerading as such. Those of us who care need to protect Chris and his forum by whatever civilized means we can influence.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Debates on forums are mostly people looking stuff up online that fits their view and then posting it.
Did you look that up, or are you posting something original?
And don't kid yourself. The reason this forum is interesting is because it hosts more than pure climbing content--otherwise just go hang out on Mountain Project.
Also, how many "political" threads are there, compared to all the non-climbing threads.
But I get it--CMac doesn't want political threads here anymore. I say too bad. For me it has been the variety of the topics and the posters that made this place interesting.
Tom, that's an interesting take. It has long been my view that certain avatars are exactly what you outline. However, I am unsure how ill-tempered posts pose any danger to the forum.
While I understand the desire to limit polarizing topics, the daily draw for me has been the zany and surprising things that you could encounter when you open up the front page. Keep things on the straight and narrow, I suppose we'll see where we go.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Maybe you could freeze users who contribute no climbing content.
^^^ ++gazillion million.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Maybe you could freeze users who contribute no climbing content.
OK, OK!!
I was laybacking this scary and run-out seam that turned into fingerstacks after a spell of RPs and tubers. My opposing TCUs had only two lobes touching rock, and my partner kept yelling Slack on Black, JACK!
Don't taze me bro!
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