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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Mar 18, 2015 - 04:28pm PT
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It is a deeply personal thing to know what one is capable of doing, and what one is willing to risk for what is gained (or for what baggage is stripped away).
The variables are so different between different people, it makes it almost impossible to find a common frame of reference to make it a meaningful discussion. In the end, we all live and die with the choices we make, and to varying degrees we affect the lives of people we touch. This goes for rock climbing, driving, leading a sedentary lifestyle and eating too much sugar or saturated fat, or anything.
We can debate degrees of risk and reward forever without settling anything, but it's reasonable fodder for the campfire.
I don't judge Alex, but I am in awe. My only hope for him is that his ability to tune out the noise around him and heed his own inner voice keeps pace with the growing level of noise around him. That in itself seems to require deep reserves of wisdom, presence, and self-understanding at an age when most people are finding their own limits and identities and making mistakes and gaining wisdom. C'est la vie!
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WBraun
climber
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Mar 18, 2015 - 05:09pm PT
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He has no control over his actions. Nobody has.
That's not true at all ever.
There's danger at every step for every living being at every moment.
It's not who you are and nor what you do, but what's in your destiny (stars).
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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Mar 18, 2015 - 05:33pm PT
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I agree with Herr Braun. Mr. Honnold could die in a van accident tomorrow as could any of us (even if you don't have a van, someone may accidentally kill you with one).
As to how long he will continue to do very dangerous climbing, I'd say in three years he will quit and become a chef and possibly take up surfing. He will not use a leash or wetsuit and he will not do tow in.
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WBraun
climber
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Mar 18, 2015 - 05:58pm PT
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So, again, Honlove has 0% control over his actions.
Yeah we're all just a mechanical robots with no control ..... rolls eyes.
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WBraun
climber
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Mar 18, 2015 - 06:16pm PT
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LOL ... I've been trolled .....
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Mar 18, 2015 - 06:17pm PT
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Lots of comments along the lines of it's not how long you lived, it's how fully you lived. At 71 I'm not sure of the validity of that. Full and long would seem to be optimal.
Alex is special....Peter Croft is special. We observers, who are not special, can admire their accomplishments and speculate about their longevity to our hearts delight.....with no effect on the outcome.
Do the math....the most important factor in shortened lives for some climbers has been alcohol.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Mar 18, 2015 - 06:59pm PT
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Both T Hocking...both. Heavy drinking has obvious consequences but studies also show that people who drink no alcohol don't live as long as people who drink moderately.
Savoring a nice Pinot Noir after a baked cod dinner.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Mar 18, 2015 - 07:12pm PT
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Given his age, level of fitness, outlook, socioeconomic status, obamacare, predicted advances in medical care in his lifetime, the care he takes with seemingly everything, I give him till his mid eighties or higher.
Though. In the modern world we all live under various swords of Damocles, and it it could all end at any minute. He does a lot of driving, that's probably the biggest risk.
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Reeotch
climber
4 Corners Area
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Mar 18, 2015 - 07:20pm PT
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Savoring a nice Pinot Noir after a baked cod dinner.
Red wine with fish. Must be a climber, hahahahahah!
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Mar 18, 2015 - 07:23pm PT
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Mar 18, 2015 - 07:28pm PT
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Au contraire....the red was after the meal but a light red like pinot noir works with fish. Yeah...I'm a climber, I drink box wine and have even been known to put ice in a white if it's too warm. I eat peanut butter from the jar with my index finger, use bark instead of toilet paper and get a week out of a cotton t shirt.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Trad climber
Will know soon
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Mar 18, 2015 - 07:33pm PT
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Love It.........Real Life by Donini. lol
And who knows about any of us, seriously. Gotta follow your passion while keeping your head on straight.
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
extraordinaire
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Mar 18, 2015 - 08:01pm PT
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Don't worry about him doing any more crazy solos, cuz in that Sender documentary he had just lost his virginity to a girl. His goose is cooked (so to speak).
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brotherbbock
Trad climber
Alta Loma, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 18, 2015 - 08:25pm PT
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As stupid as my thread title may be to some...I literally have been asked by non-climbers that very question just worded differently.
Because he is a public figure these types of questions are only natural. Sure they are probably best saved for the campfire....but by that logic half the s&#t on this website should be too hahah!
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John M
climber
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Mar 18, 2015 - 09:05pm PT
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Next time perhaps depersonalize it. We had this discussion about soloing and longevity on the taco back when Bachar was alive.
To the risk averse, anything risky seems foolish.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Mar 18, 2015 - 09:34pm PT
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I predict he'll send Golden Gate and retire from cutting edge free soloing, and live to be 100.
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Mar 18, 2015 - 10:28pm PT
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seems like some folks are tough. some are not.
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Mar 19, 2015 - 08:37am PT
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Well, he has stopped eating Cliff Bars right? That ought to add a few years back on.
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Tennessee Jed
Sport climber
South Bay
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Mar 19, 2015 - 10:31am PT
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Reardon > Honnold
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Bad Climber
climber
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Mar 19, 2015 - 11:05am PT
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Mr. H's solos give me the chills for sure, but I've never seen anyone more solid, so he plays the game well.
I have deep respect for Bonnatti (sp?) when he climbed down off the N. face of the Eiger and stepped away from high end alpinism. The man was at the height of his powers, did the math, and stepped back from the edge. He lived to be the Grand Old Man of alpine climbing. I hope the same future is in store for Alex.
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