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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Feb 28, 2015 - 08:01am PT
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Informative, progressive thinking outside the nutshell. Nice.
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hellroaring
Trad climber
San Francisco
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Feb 28, 2015 - 09:21am PT
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Supersucks...both the act itself...and all the punative fuks chiming in. Chopping off fingers, poking out eyes, burning their car, wow! Maybe you all could even learn from your ISIS buddies & make a slickly produced video, after all that giddy spring in your step & the glee in your eyes as you deal out retribution could be a warning to other would be offenders. We could be like Afghanistan, yipee!! Don't like any of all this one bit...my hats off to those who clean up thiks mess (the paint, not the blood or amputated didgets).
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Petch
Gym climber
knapsack crack
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Feb 28, 2015 - 11:16am PT
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Haven't been on the taco in a while and I see this. Heart is racing and saddened. Also heard the boulders and possibly the Hog also got hit.
Just ordered graffiti remover and now have a new Leap project to work on this week.
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the czar
climber
meyers, ca.
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Feb 28, 2015 - 11:34am PT
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saw this yesterday while messing around surrealistic. damn kids.
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 5, 2015 - 04:39am PT
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Just wanted to let ST know I got this message "We found that some folks had already worked on the graffiti and did a really good job, but we added a little more time in scrubbing effort to the project. I'm sure it will look better once it weathers a bit."
Many thanks to Petch and crew along with the mystery graffiti busters, really appreciate having these stewards getting after it.
Berg Heil,
Charlie D.
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Taggers are already in hell. Imagine a life so shitty that spray-painting a beautiful place either gives you pleasure or relieves your pain? One might say they are ambivalent about doing it, but this wouldn't be consistent with the effort required to haul their bodies and the paint up there.
If a person defaces beauty, perhaps it is because they feel ugly inside, and witnessing beauty is a painful reminder of what they lack. Defacing external beauty can also be symbolic of self-destruction, or at least bringing the world down to their self-perceived level of ugliness. I think there's a similar dynamic for vandals- folks who don't feel worthy or valuable or who lack the confidence that they can create something of value, so they destroy value. There are different forms of hell, and these are among them.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Taggers should have their thumbs cut off. It's hard to hold a spray can without a thumb.
WTF, my man, I disagree heartily.
I have experience here.
Duct tape.
Put a strip over their noses and then plaster it over with e-Poxy.
Spray a shot of paint down their mouth.
Make them walk home by throwing their car keys in the creek.
This way they can at least hitch a ride and have to explain why they are in such a fix.
That is, if anyone cares to stop for a guy with duct tape over their nose.
MFM, counting to nine to control my ire.
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KabalaArch
Trad climber
Starlite, California
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These were created by a then-young graphic artist, who'd moved out here from his Cincinatti home turf. The buildings involved were “designated tag zones.” RR boxcars are, well, fair game first come first serve, I guess.
Waay BITD, I successfully talked some dude out of tagging a small bluff up above the Stinson Beach parking lot. I guess his intent was to immortalize that day on the Beach with his g|f. So I took the initiative to huff it up the steep hillside, upslope a hundred feet or so, and basically reasoned with him – successfully.
To a point, anyway. Later, we headed home on Hwy 1 – and the guy had tagged a small drainage drop inlet concrete headwall alongside the road. “Okay...if not in the dumpster, a storm drain is a compromise...”
One urban myth suggests that tagging originated in one of the Mexican states, Sinaloa??? IDK.
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PSP also PP
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Mar 11, 2015 - 10:07am PT
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Don't bring in solvents to remove the tags (all those removers are typically solvents)it pollutes the environment. The portable sand blaster sounds like the least polluting idea. I guess you could also use sand paper.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Mar 11, 2015 - 10:24am PT
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I can't imagine why anyone would tag Lynne Leichtfuss. She seems like a very nice person...and besides...she wouldn't hold still for such things.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Mar 11, 2015 - 10:52am PT
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BANSKY-EEZ=art or ART! Do we need anti paint climbing signs?`
As to Chaze's comment;
I was always supportive of the climber generated
Public Service outreach for women's support program
A Quasi Quid pro quo, professional curtsey arrangement
between Guides and Dancers,
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cornel
climber
Lake Tahoe, Nevada
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Mar 11, 2015 - 11:19am PT
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Some really hilarious and some thoughtful comments on, this ever increasing problem. There was a time when I would I have been very violent about someone tagging something as sacred as one of my climbing areas. Now perhaps I am somewhat less violent. Nuts again makes some valid points. Teaching is of course preferred. Though It is especially challenging when someone is pissing on your Buddha, but that is the acid test as to whether one is serious about the actuality of non violence or just playing with some mental concept. If one is lucky enough to catch someone in the act then one has a wonderful opportunity. What will it culminate in an assault or a changed being maybe?..This issue is not going away if anything it's going to get more prevelent. Just too many people sharing Mother Earth...Huge opportunities ahead...first ascents of freedom from violence moment by moment..or more tired repeats of violent behavior?
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eagle
Trad climber
new paltz, ny
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Mar 11, 2015 - 11:30am PT
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TRASH SUCKS NO DOUBT
I WOULD SUGGEST A FEW GALLONS OF GOOF OFF FROM LOWES OR HOME DEPOT..IT'S A PAINT REMOVER..IT'S VERY STRONG, WORKS AND PACKS A WHOPPING HEAD RUSH. USE IT FULL STRENGTH, WIRE BRUSHES DIP SCRUB AND REPEAT. BUT,IF THAT DOESN'T WORK HECK SPRAY THE STONE THE SAME COLOR AS THE ROCK...THAT'S WHAT THEY DO WITH RAT ROCK IN CENTRAL PARK...MAYBE THAT'S WHY THE PROBLEMS ARE SO SLICK AND V69
AS FOR THE BOTTLES AND CANS ONE CAN RETURN THEM FOR A 5 CENT REFUND
HERE IN THE GUNKS NOT TO BAD. THERE IS AN ORGANIZED CLEAN UP EVERY SPRING
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Mary Moser
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, CA
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Mar 11, 2015 - 04:00pm PT
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This makes me so angry. We have had taggers here in Joshua Tree as well and it's just so annoying that people have so little regard for nature.
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labrat
Trad climber
Auburn, CA
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Mar 11, 2015 - 04:04pm PT
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"Many thanks to Petch and crew along with the mystery graffiti busters, really appreciate having these stewards getting after it."
Many thanks x2!!!!
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Larry
Trad climber
Bisbee
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Mar 11, 2015 - 04:12pm PT
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Can you show us some before & after photos, Petch?
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dwell
climber
Pollock Pines
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Mar 11, 2015 - 07:13pm PT
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Petch, you are a good man. David from Pollock here, and always willing to join in the dirty job cleaning this off next time. Light to Darkness, or ignorance, take your pick.
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skeena
Trad climber
smithers
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Mar 11, 2015 - 08:03pm PT
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ya it is disturbing but it doesn't do anything to the climb!
let's just climb and not worry
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Mar 11, 2015 - 08:57pm PT
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"let's just climb and not worry"
Ignoring = acceptance
Can't do that...nosirree...
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