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Vegasclimber
Trad climber
Las Vegas, NV.
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Oct 22, 2014 - 12:40pm PT
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All academic at this point - this stuff has exploded all over the Internet the last couple days. Her Tumbler account is locked down with a message of "I dunnnn fuuuucked up"
Wonder how long it took her to figure that out. Not too bright, posting that stuff all over the place. She's gone to ground social media wise, but there is more then enough evidence to support charges. She will get busted, and hopefully they will make an example and give her a hefty fine, jail time, and make her go clean all that crap up.
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dave729
Trad climber
Western America
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Oct 22, 2014 - 12:54pm PT
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Punishment should fit the crime. Removing graffiti sounds about right.
reddit says she was arrested 2 years ago.
* Jan 10 2012 Drugs: Casey L. Nocket, 19, Highland, was arrested by Lloyd town police Saturday and charged with possession of a controlled substance, a misdemeanor. She was released on an appearance ticket.
http://www.dailyfreeman.com/general-news/20120110/law-disorder-jan-10-2012
best comment so far:
"I am quite saddened by this. My guess is Ms. Nocket more than likely had some academic training, but it would appear the school tuition might have been better spent on liquor and lottery tickets."
SKI
"What massive arrogance. There's never a hungry bear around when you need one."
klee
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Oct 22, 2014 - 01:03pm PT
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As an artist her work is poor.
As a white female, she should be prosecuted as a young black male.
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cintune
climber
The Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
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Oct 22, 2014 - 01:04pm PT
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Acrylics should wire-brush off pretty easily.
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hossjulia
Trad climber
Carson City, NV
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Oct 22, 2014 - 01:06pm PT
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Ah yes, some true colors shining through. (And more names to add to my mental, don't care to meet in public list)
Stupid, stupid, stupid, all around.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Oct 22, 2014 - 01:16pm PT
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I did a tagging rehab project at the base of Tahquitz a few years ago...the tag had been there for a number of years already, and the results of the effort were pretty good. Here's the thread w/ pics, and the method I used, as well as several others experiences:
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1253436/Tahquitz-Graffiti
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Dapper Dan
Trad climber
Menlo Park
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Oct 22, 2014 - 01:29pm PT
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I'm trying to figure out why this irks me , and us so much...
...yes there are white chalk marks on the stones all over Yosemite, yes there is a giant paved trail that takes you up to Vernal Falls that was blasted out of the mountains, yes in 10,000 years none of this will matter...
...but still it doesn't sit right with us. Is is the self centered nature of the act, that she chose to paint on rocks and society agrees that it is wrong ? Is is her lack of self control? Is it the publicizing of her acts on the internet ? the attention seeking aspect of it?
sorry for all the questions , I hear the anger and feel it myself , I just find it difficult to pinpoint why we feel this is wrong...
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CA.Timothy
climber
California
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Oct 22, 2014 - 01:58pm PT
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How is this different than climbers leaving behind chalk marks?
Im not saying either are right. Just asking, how is it different?
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i'm gumby dammit
Sport climber
da ow
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Oct 22, 2014 - 02:20pm PT
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I'm trying to figure out why this irks me , and us so much...
...yes there are white chalk marks on the stones all over Yosemite, yes there is a giant paved trail that takes you up to Vernal Falls that was blasted out of the mountains, yes in 10,000 years none of this will matter... As someone who only started climbing very recently, but has spent most of my time for many years in the mountains I can say that I never noticed chalk (or bolts) before I started looking the rocks as a climber. And the trail to vernal falls was a collaborative effort so that many thousands could enjoy something beautiful. Hers is the act of one that benefits only her.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Oct 22, 2014 - 02:25pm PT
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Remember when that guy threw a frisbee off Half Dome and made a video of his action? I actually got his telephone number and called him on littering.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Oct 22, 2014 - 02:42pm PT
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You haven't been around ST very long, have you, CCT?
Those kinds of horrific remarks are nowhere close to unique to 'young & hot' vandalism. A few deplorable, dysfunctional threads of the (otherwise wonderful) ST Forum fabric.
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Psilocyborg
climber
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Oct 22, 2014 - 03:03pm PT
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EVERYONE STOP! CCT IS OFFENDED!
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Fish Finder
Social climber
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Oct 22, 2014 - 03:03pm PT
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I certainly cant condone free speech through art in national parks without a permit
but
Dont Nocket
till ya try it
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kev
climber
A pile of dirt.
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Oct 22, 2014 - 03:08pm PT
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Is CCT = LEB?
edit
or is CCT = bubbles?????
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skii
climber
tacoma wa
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Oct 22, 2014 - 03:17pm PT
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since one of the members posted a snippet of a comment I posted on another site (modernhiker), here's the entire post, in response to "Zank":
October 22, 2014 at 12:23 pm
Zank, the petition to the White House is probably a good idea to bring attention to this, but I wonder about its efficacy, and whether it will get the number of signatures required for anyone to pay attention to it.
I would suggest sending an email to the National Park Service Director Jon Jarvis at jon_jarvis@nps.gov and expressing your outrage and disappointment his direction.
It would appear this will not be Ms. Nocket’s first experience dealing with law enforcement:
http://www.dailyfreeman.com/general-news/20120110/law-disorder-jan-10-2012
After having read the articles and comments that have so far been posted here and on other sites, the adjectives which I believe most aptly apply here are:
narcissist
ignorant
entitled
I am quite saddened by this. My guess is Ms. Nocket more than likely had some academic training, but it would appear the tuition might have been better spent on liquor or lottery tickets.
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and here is my email to National Park Service Director Jonathan Jarvis ( jon_jarvis@nps.gov ):
Wednesday, October 22, 2014 1:23 PM
Mr. Jonathan Jarvis, Director
National Park Service
Washington, D.C.
re: Casey L. Nocket graffiti/vandalism at National Parks
Sir:
After reading several online articles and readers' comments regarding Casey L. Nocket's graffiti and vandalism at several National Parks, I would like to express my comments and suggestions.
This matter was brought to my attention in an online article posted HERE: http://www.modernhiker.com/2014/10/21/instagram-artist-defaces-national-parks/
There has already been a petition posted at whitehouse.gov HERE: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/press-charges-casey-nocket-finesmax-community-servicejail-timeetc-httpgooglhy4yqj-defacing-np-nm/1y8xJBGm
It would appear this is not Ms. Nocket's first transgression. Story HERE: http://www.dailyfreeman.com/general-news/20120110/law-disorder-jan-10-2012
I believe the three adjectives which most aptly apply in this case are: narcissist, ignorant, and entitlement.
I consider myself to have a fairly open mind when it comes to "art", and have a bit of background in the art world myself. While the ancient native American petroglyphs and pictographs were indeed a form of "graffiti" originally, the addition of what are at best mediocre high-school-level cartoons can in no way be considered something which enhances the intrinsic beauty and value of our National Parks.
I urge that Ms. Nocket be prosecuted to the fullest extent the law allows. I have no doubt others will cry out for retribution in the form of incarceration or community service at the least, or removal of Ms. Nocket's fingers at worst.
Having worked with acrylics myself a few times, I know it can be removed with acetone or a pressure washer, but I believe in this particular instance it would be more appropriate and more environmentally friendly to employ pure water and a stiff boar-bristle brush. A video posted online of Ms. Nocket removing her work might well prove to be an effective deterrent and send a clear message to other cretins who might be entertaining thoughts of engaging in similar activities.
Thank you very much for your time and consideration.
Ski
(nickname "Ski" was already taken here, so I'm "Skii" here and at WTA.org)
(all times are PDT)
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Oct 22, 2014 - 03:20pm PT
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EVERYONE STOP! CCT IS OFFENDED!
It's telling that more men here are not, but just taking the torture, rape and murder "jokes" in stride.
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kev
climber
A pile of dirt.
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Oct 22, 2014 - 03:32pm PT
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Chiloe,
I am very offended and troubled by the graffiti.
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