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Q- Ball
Mountain climber
where the wind always blows
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Elcappinyoaz- (sp?)
I am sorry my thin physique bother's you.
Wow, didn't know being in shape was a new issue.
It makes me curious why you aren't in shape?
edit- look at my dad, I am happy to be healthy like him!
--Q-ball
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lubbockclimber
Trad climber
lubbock,tx
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Is the author serious can anybody be this f*#king stupid? GO SUCK A CUCUMBER YOU LIBERAL PUSSY!!!!
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Q- Ball
Mountain climber
where the wind always blows
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lubbockclimber-
Realize they want to piss you off.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujo de la Playa
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For Patrick Sawyer
From left:
Will Hutchins (“Sugarfoot” Brewster-Sugarfoot)
Peter Brown (Johnny McKay-Lawman)
Jack Kelly (Bart Maverick-Maverick)
Ty Hardin (Bronco Laine-Bronco)
James Garner (Bret Maverick-Maverick)
Wayde Preston (Christopher Colt-Colt .45)
John Russell (Dan Troop-Lawman)
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the albatross
Gym climber
Flagstaff
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WTF! WTF?
That sounds incredible. I've been seeing all sorts of birds lately on the water.
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Delhi Dog
climber
Good Question...
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"You are having a conversation with a duck believe it or not. "
We have that here too sometimes.
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the albatross
Gym climber
Flagstaff
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I look forward to harvesting a duck to feed my friends and Sylvester. Thanks for keeping the stoke going.
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coastal_climber
Trad climber
BC
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Truthfully, I don't 'enjoy' killing the animals I harvest. I do however enjoy perfectin the skills required; stalking, shooting (gun/bow), dressing, and when I'm home, butchering.
It's a very satisfying feeling taking something and putting it on the table, and not many people get to or want to do it. I won't apologize, or stop doing it.
An animal that stops killing its prey starves.
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thebravecowboy
Social climber
Colorado Plateau
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That just cannot be satisfying for the St. Bernard. He looks like he's dehydrated.
The soccer ball still has not been penetrated but he just keeps on humpin' away.
And yet I cannot turn away. I guess I am kind of rooting for some satisfaction, some relief. Poor guy.
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Trusty Rusty
climber
Tahoe Area
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Loving animals is fun and good for the environment too. . .
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Ljohnson
Social climber
The land of ice, snow and rocks
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I currently run a hunting/fly fishing shop and have worked in both retail and media for climbing specific companies in the past. Therefore, I feel somewhat informed on this topic of discussion.
A lot of good points have been made in this thread.
Personally, I don't agree with hunting bison, lion and other "exotic" animals. I don't really understand the wildlife management principles behind these hunts. If a particular quarry does not have a sustainable population in the area than I will not hunt it.
On the other side of the coin...
The amount of money put towards preservation and conservation by the hook & bullet crowd is in the billions annually. With climbing it is in the hundreds of thousands.
Hunters and Fishermen put a massive amount of money towards their hobby/passion and with that massive amount of money you have to deal with the masses.
Yes, some hunters and fishermen are slobs in the outdoors, but at least they pay to manage the impact.
If climbers had to have a climbing permit for each state they climb in, and special permits for long trad routes, and a stamp to do sport routes there would be an outrage. I pay over a thousand dollars per year to use my public lands and the money that goes towards tags is the best spent because I see the direct results of my money in harvest rates and conservation easements. The second best is the money I donate to the AF. The most useless is the money I spend in National Parks and Monuments because that money goes directly into the pockets of private concessions.
I totally agree that anybody who eats meat should harvest it at least once. The human race has been harvesting and eating meat since day one and to forsake that seems really odd to me. For humans to buy meat in packages and not be part of the kill is wrong. By killing you understand the process and the loss of life associated with your existence. This sounds morbid but to anybody who has hunted it makes perfect sense.
Flame away..... just my two cents
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patrick compton
Trad climber
van
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agreed. have hippie liberal rich doctor friends that had a chicken for eggs. it got torn up by a raccoon so instead of killing it at eating like any sane person would, they took said chicken to a vet, got charged upwards of $800 and the chicken died anyway... then probably had chicken for dinner that night.
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Braunini
Big Wall climber
cupertino
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Admit it.
Americans are the most violent people on the planet.
They're basically just polished animals and not human beings .......
Stupid americans
A spiritually illuminated soul lives in the world, yet is never contaminated by it.
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thebravecowboy
Social climber
Colorado Plateau
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So this St. Bernard is horizontal on this grassy field of my childhood, dry-f*#kin' this soccer ball, all slow-like, methodical, like he is actually getting somewhere.
But he isn't. Getting anywhere.
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thebravecowboy
Social climber
Colorado Plateau
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Oh yeah, and this is critical: the St. Bernard is morbidly obese.
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Braunini
Big Wall climber
cupertino
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I don't get it. Post 5 or 6 more times in a row.
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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And everyone who eats vegetables should grow his own, at least for one season.
That way you'll see what a challenge it is.
Chaz, so true. Time consuming, sometimes “dirty” (heck you are digging in the soil, with fish guts and cow/horse manure. Chicken manure is good but takes awhile to break down the nitrates, rabbit pellets, the best for small crop holdings, you can use the pellets in the soil right after the little buggers, uh, release them).
But in California and Ireland, never had problems with mooses (okay, archaic plural… moose) munching on the crops, deer and other critters, yes in Cali. Raccoons love chicken and rabbit (interesting to see a coon rip a 9mm wire mesh door off a hutch).
Foxes will dig up crops in Ireland, along with rabbits, badgers, and marijuana thieves.
But Chaz, water is no problem here in the Sunny Southeast (Wexford). It has been deluge after deluge. Flooding, enough water to send to parched California.
Ron, do you really think that hunters are solely responsible for conservation in the US, or did I misread your posts?
And I am 1/16 Cherokee (documented) does that make my any less an American than you, Ronnie
Rock and Ice, a narcissistic, short sighted magazine which regularly glorifies criminal activity.
The albatross, well put. And I am NOT trying to bash Ron, I just think he appears to have short-sighted views. But then I have never met him in person.
anti-hunter, anti-gun lunatics
Lunatics? Hmmm, are you sure you are not a pot calling the kettle black?
zBrown. Okay, I sort of knew that was not Clark Gable, too young, but that does look like Errol Flynn in his later years. Peter Brown, he was in Laredo too.
I know some of my post is off topic.
A lot of threads on supertopo remind me of that time... of that ruined fair.
Speelyei, so don’t go to the fair if… you don’t like it.
BTW, I see your point, but then, I don't get it. But I am just dazed and confused.
And the bravecowboy, you sure that is not a rugby ball the St Bernard is…
I would bet though that despite the banter and indeed name calling and negative vibes, just about every Taco Stander would help (if possible) another climber whop may be in difficulty.
Yes this forum and its post can sometimes be juvenile, even infantile. But why come back to it if you do not like the non-climbing stuff, or why even post on non-climbing threads?
I think it is because many people, at least speaking for myself, like to put their two cents in. Sometimes that two cents can be intelligent, sometimes inane.
Gosh people, I think I have too much time on my hands.
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speelyei
Trad climber
Mohave County Arizona
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Oh, I didn't say I didn't like it... Although the tone was somber.
I like a train wreck as much as the next guy.
Thank you for referencing my post!
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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I like a train wreck as much as the next guy.
Speelyei, I prefer plane crashes. Usually more carnage. Though I did like the train wreck in The Fugitive (Harrison Ford version).
Ooops, off topic again, am I.
Oh yes, plane crashes. Gosh I was in the Valley at the time but did not have the sinsemilla, uh sense, to get up to Tuolumne, other I would have had the… sense?
Karen, don't make me laugh, I am drinking coffee at my computer, ooops, there goes the keyboard, should be much faster now with the caffeine load.
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