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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
St. Louis
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When a song gets stuck in your head - some refer to that as an ear worm. They are generally quite difficult to kill, but can be easily replaced by other more hideous ear worms.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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must.
get.
out.
sumwhere there is a file photo of kirk and spock covering their ears in hopes of blocking out some hideous alien noise...
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JuanDeFuca
Big Wall climber
Stoney Point
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What exactly is a racist?
Do racial stereotypes exist?
The answer is yes. Are they accurate, in many cases yes.
Take Jews for example, they are hard working decent people. They take care of the their families and are a real asset to civilization. The excel in Science, Medicine and other fields.
On the other hand take ___.
Juan
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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climbers:
chatty hypersocial misfits who sumtimes go outside fer big thrills.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 6, 2006 - 01:35pm PT
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Take your hypersocial and stick it in a crack.
Oops. That wasn't me. It was the alcohol talking.
lol
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Mimi
Trad climber
Seattle
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And then drink heavily, or not.
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dirtineye
Trad climber
the south
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YOu want drug talk? I'll give you drug talk!
Just wait til next week, about Monday or Tuesday night, LOL!
Nah, sad thing is, I'm about the same, sober, stoned or drunk, only a little niced when under some influence. Except, There's somethign about REAL drugs. I get a LOT of girl's phone numbers in the recovery room, LOL. That's the truth! I must be REALLY nice deep down.
I'd sure like to know what I say in recovery though, cause it must be the right thing. Maybe I just need a shitload of demerol and valium to appeal to women?
Is THAT your secret, Tar-baby????
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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no secrits dirt dadeo rodeo,
'just like the company of gurls, wymin, ladies, cowgirls, felines, cragdarlins,
and my super hoppin' wife and it's a gen-u-wine interest.
homage to lisa and wedding day:
end of shameless male ego plug the thread drifteo.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 7, 2006 - 11:56am PT
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I thought this thread had died, but I'd like to thank JIMB for getting us back on topic.
Some interesting details there.
I've always thought that Jodie Foster seemed pretty darn perceptive and bright, and having personal contact with Gibson gives her a leg up on us "experts" in the peanut gallery.
What's more I think the point about collared drunks going through the anger phase and lashing out at any obvious characteristic may have some validity.
So now I'm kinda screwed.
I always say that people who straddle fences for too long tend to lose their balls, but at least on this dust-up the jury might still be out.
Anyway, JIMB, we've always been willing to welcome others. Just ask Sammy Davis Jr.
Circumcision optional.(Yeeeouch!)
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scuffy b
climber
The town that Nature forgot to hate
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Ron, I like your phrase about alcohol merely lubricating the jaw.
There are plenty of closet racists in the world. Maybe it's true
that we all are racist, I can't say.
How well we deal with our own flaws is a major component of our
worth or decency as people.
The following is not meant to depict Gibson--I don't know enough.
If a man can only be seen to be anti-Semitic under the influence
of large doses of alcohol, and during the rest of his life he is
considered to be decent and fair, can we not be impressed by the
effort he makes to hide or compensate for his flaws?
Can we judge a man by his acts?
Thanks, Steve m
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 7, 2006 - 03:20pm PT
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Scuffy,
there's a difference between hiding it and dealing with it well.
Jennie,
I strongly doubt that anti-semitic rhetoric has been heard much from the pulpit, but this is the first time I've heard of practitioners cautioned against it.
Xenophobia is natural, but again, its HOW WE DEAL WITH IT that matters.
Where I live people use the expression "jewing" somebody, with the context ranging from negative to, if anything, worse.
The thing that bugs me even more is that they do so without nervously looking around. It is blatant and unapologetic.
And mormons can't even claim it was the alcohol talking can they?
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Kartch
climber
Mutahna
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Ron you're labeling an entire religion, I know Mo's that did drink and continue to drink, some in public some in private. Saying Mo's don't drink is just a hasty generalization. Hahaha.
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Jennie
Trad climber
Salt Lake
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Right! as the joke goes, "Mormons only drink in secret" Ha-Ha
I can understand your feelings more than you think. I've lived in areas with a strong anti-mormon bias and I got a lot of flak for being one. It hurts. And when you call them to task on it, they try to minimize it or justify it. Or just say they were "funnin me".
Within the LDS church there is significant friction between Devout followers and so called "Jack Mormons". There is even a cliche "There's nothing worse than a Jack Mormon!" I wonder if the abuse you've been subjected to by Mormons might be from the wayward Jack Mormons than the true followers who try to live the faith. (?)
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 7, 2006 - 04:05pm PT
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So you're saying that alcohol can talk, but its hard to hear when its in the closet?
lol (just kidding)
But a little more seriously Jennie, let's turn it around. Would I have nothing to object to if, say, the slurs were only against Orthodox Jews?
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Jennie
Trad climber
Salt Lake
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You're right. Bigotry is always wrong. But I'm just sticking with the argument that the church itself doesn't promote anti-Semitism. But like the Catholic church not containing Hitler, fascists or the Mafia from shedding blood, the LDS faith isn't completely successful in disuading all of it's members from making anti-Semitic statements.
But then, Ron, you know it isn't just bad mormons doing it. Anti Semitism plagues our whole Western Civilization. You may get it from mormons cause you live here. But who you gonna get it from in Minnesota, Pennsylvania or Georgia?
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Richard Large
climber
sneaking up behind you...
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"But who you gonna get it from in Minnesota...", yeah I really HATE those Minnesotans.
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Jennie
Trad climber
Salt Lake
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Uh-oh. Did I offend a damned Lutheran?
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 7, 2006 - 04:44pm PT
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Thanks Jennie, but I have enough to deal with here.
Certainly its ubiquitous, but my concern is that living where there is a majority of mormons tends to create this sense of "unity" which as such is more prone to xenophobia.
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Jennie
Trad climber
Salt Lake
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Ron,
If it gets out of hand you could talk to the local bishops or stake presidents. The church DOESN'T want that stuff happening. If some or several mormon people are oppressing you, let it be known to the church. You don't have to take that stuff!
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 7, 2006 - 06:27pm PT
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Funny you should say that.
I've just been looking up an old acquaintance who's now on the quorum of the seventy!
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