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The Call Of K2 Lou
climber
The 'burbs of Vancouver
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Dec 21, 2013 - 03:52pm PT
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Dude, you probably wouldn't need to pack all that heat if you didn't live in what is, judging by your frequent descriptions, the worst neighbourhood in America. Maybe sell that s#!t and move on up to Canada.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Dec 21, 2013 - 04:01pm PT
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It is FAR from the worst neighborhood, it just SOUNDS like a war zone, but it isn't at all. I slept soundly and quietly in my ride outside, and not a creature stirred to disturb me. It's not a city, it's not the country, it's just bleak as hell and people come there to seek whores. Things are bound to happen, but they are blocks away. I should have taken more photos of the lovely spot when I had the chance.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Dec 21, 2013 - 04:07pm PT
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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Dec 21, 2013 - 04:13pm PT
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Not to be rude, but does taxidermy involve inhaled chemicals?
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Dec 21, 2013 - 06:09pm PT
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 21, 2013 - 07:19pm PT
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Just back from town;
to clarify
On a standard double action handgun one has the choice of cocking an external hammer first and then shooting single action, or just pulling harder on the trigger to perform both actions sequentially.
A single action handgun will only fire after it has been cocked.
A DAO does not permit the shooter to choose. All shots are double action.
Technically a striker fired gun is none of the above, however, Kahr calls it a DAO because there is no external hammer and it operates in a manner similar to a fully shrouded DAO.
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clinker
Trad climber
California
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Dec 21, 2013 - 09:20pm PT
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The gun thing. We have people in our happy society who can handle that for us.
Ron, what the---- can I say. A whole lot of highly educated people are spoiled-f'n stupid.
I like my biscuits and liberty made from scratch.
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jonnyrig
Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
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Dec 21, 2013 - 09:24pm PT
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its getting dark- do you know where your biscuits are?
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 21, 2013 - 09:56pm PT
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Ya know, usually ya need dough to get guns and ammo, not the reverse unless you are a criminal.
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this just in
climber
north fork
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Dec 21, 2013 - 10:05pm PT
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That kel-tech POS I didn't want to say anything, but thanks for saying this for me Ron. Oh apogee.....get a life.
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this just in
climber
north fork
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Dec 21, 2013 - 10:37pm PT
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It's all personal preferences, caliber included. Funny story Ron , glad you figured out the mystery of the biscuits. And now plaidman has a sidekick, you should have taken a trophy pic though.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Dec 21, 2013 - 10:37pm PT
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Stumble out of the bedroom wiping yur eyes to see wtf? After hearing what sounded exactly like a .25 caliber going off twice?
.25 cal? Well hell.. I'd have just rolled over and gone back to sleep..I'm not sure those things can get through glass with enough energy to do any more damage.
:) Thanks for the story Ron.
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jonnyrig
Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
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Dec 22, 2013 - 12:35am PT
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no, the 25 is an awesome gun for defensive scenarios...
they're small enough that nobody knows when you're packing. then, when trouble appears, shoot yer buddy in the knees and run. extra pimp-daddy style points for having a chromed out, pearl handled, engraved Raven.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Dec 22, 2013 - 01:14am PT
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I roll out of bed grabbing a keltech 9mm as i fully expect a badguy around the wall from me...
Just another shining example of a simple fact:
A gun in home for "self defense" is 10 to 20 times more likely to be used to accidentally kill someone in the home - or be used by someone in the home for suicide - than it is to be used in a true case of "self defense."
The cure is worse than the disease. Amerika is full of gun nuts.
For every example of "home defense" with a gun you can throw at me, I'll throw back 10 to 20 cases of someone accidentally shooting their spouse or father or son, or someone killing themself with a "home defense" weapon.
THE CURE IS WORSE THAN THE DISEASE.
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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Dec 22, 2013 - 01:15am PT
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Time to make the doughnuts.
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jonnyrig
Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
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Dec 22, 2013 - 01:16am PT
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And ropes get used for suicide too. What do the statistics look like without the suicides? Does having rope in the house make you more likely to get hanged?
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Dec 22, 2013 - 01:22am PT
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And ropes get used for suicide too. What do the statistics look like without the suicides?
A typical ignorant counter-argument by the gun nuts.
FACT: >90% of suicide attempts fail (because most attempts are just gestures). But a gun in the home makes it almost certain that a suicide attempt will be successful, especially if the person is male. Statistics for ropes and knives do not even come close to matching the fatality rates assocaited with "self defense" guns in the home, even in countries that have few guns.
The cure is worse than the disease.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Dec 22, 2013 - 01:26am PT
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Ron, your gun is 10 to 20 times more likely to be used to accidentally kill you or someone else in your home (e.g., a vistor) than it is to be used defending against an intruder. What part of that don't you understand?
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jonnyrig
Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
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Dec 22, 2013 - 01:40am PT
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SLR... Really? Typically ignorant? WTF is your problem with such a question?
It's just as legitimate as asking the "gun nuts" who believe their firearms are there to protect them against government tyranny just exactly at what point they become justified in using those firearms against such tyranny.
YOU posted the statement that having a firearm makes it more likely blah blah blah...
Yeah, I saw some of those studies. They plainly state that, statistically, the presence of the firearm makes that more likely. Statistically, can you explain how someone without a rope in the home (or some other type of cordage) could manage to hang themselves?
Guess what dude... YOU sir, are probably about 20 times more likely to die in a cave than the rest of us. So how, exactly, do you justify such an inherently dangerous activity? Statistically, you know, most people don't do caves. So, by that action, you put yourself at greater risk of a death in that location.
Hell, for all we know, maybe it's the damn biscuits that statistically make Ron's firearms more dangerous!
Maybe, just maybe, statistically, depressed, suicidal people are more likely to kill themselves.
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jonnyrig
Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
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Dec 22, 2013 - 02:09am PT
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Nevermind. This isn't one of the gun threads. Thanks for the story Ron. I'm going to go do something else now.
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