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steve shea
climber
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Sep 18, 2013 - 03:50pm PT
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I've seen 35 big game hunting seasons come and go. There are unfortunate accidents here in wyo every year. Mostly involving other hunters but sometimes innocent bystanders or wild life. Grizzly attacks on hunting camps or gut piles with people around are not common but happen more often than you would think. So people pack all the time. Add a little beer, maybe hunting success and the wild west atmosphere and bingo, gun accidents.
Ten Sleep canyon is not far out there. There is a small ski area, a lake, a fed fish hatchery and a golf course all in the area. There are several campgrounds and the area is popular as a destination for a lot of different interests. It is one of the main ateries across the Big Horn Basin over the Big Horn Mts to Buffalo, Sheridan and Casper and I-25. This ain't no third world part of wyo. It smells like a hunting season guns beer and ammo event.
Wyo is crawling with a big influx of oil field trash from all over since Dick sold us out for the gas fields west of the Winds. A windfall for Haliburton.
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michaeld
Sport climber
Sacramento
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Sep 18, 2013 - 04:17pm PT
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What, I'm agreeing with you! It could have happened exactly as you stated. In fact, I'd say that is the most likely scenario. Seriously.
I bet this wouldn't have happened if the climbers had been armed. They could have started shooting when they first heard the noises... as a way of politely saying "hey, don't shoot over here... respectfully yours, a fellow gun owner." Not seriously.
The point is, we need more people with easy access to more guns to avoid senseless gun violence... not background checks, mandatory safety classes, and gun regulation.
You may be agreeing, buy you're still a f*#king tool.
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jonnyrig
Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
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Sep 18, 2013 - 06:19pm PT
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Well, since we,re speculating-
domestic dispute. The girl shot him in the gut over his mention of wanting some other chick to belay him, only she didnt hear the BE. That, or some argument over whether placing trad gear on a sport route is ethical.
The truth may or may not ever come to light, but rest assured it wont alter your passionately preconceived notions regarding firearms.
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rwedgee
Ice climber
canyon country,CA
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Sep 18, 2013 - 07:27pm PT
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"I'd rather be shot with a 223 than an 22 any day. At least the 223 will go through you that 22 round just bounces around in you and tears you up all over."
A .223 55 grain at ~3,400 fps vs a .22 40 grain at ~1,200 fps ??
You have got to be joking. Perhaps the military should switch to .22LR
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 18, 2013 - 07:33pm PT
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Yes, I am a tool... I will fix you... just do everything I tell you to do
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
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Sep 18, 2013 - 07:38pm PT
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Well said ,Steve Shea,I have been around Ten Sleep ,several times ,climbing,hiking ,hunting and fishing.
Big camps,not to far away from things,a bit of all kinds of traffic.Accidents happen.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 18, 2013 - 07:44pm PT
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I am required by law to operate my car in a safe manner in approved areas only, register it, and insure it in case I am involved in an accident.
But alas, God never mentioned cars when he wrote the Constitution. I wonder why not.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Sep 18, 2013 - 07:53pm PT
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God never mentioned cars when he wrote the Constitution.
Really?!
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sandstone conglomerate
climber
sharon conglomerate central
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Sep 18, 2013 - 07:56pm PT
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I KNEW god wrote the Constitution
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Sep 18, 2013 - 08:13pm PT
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"But alas, God never mentioned cars when he wrote the Constitution."
Read the Tenth Amendment. It's covered there.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 19, 2013 - 12:24pm PT
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More info:
The climber shot in Ten Sleep Canyon is recovering in a hospital in Billings, Montana. The Ecuadorian climber, Jose, and his Romanian-American girlfriend, Ana, have offered clarifying information regarding the incident. They wish for their last names to remain anonymous.
The couple was on a climbing vacation in the United States, enjoying the Ten Sleep limestone. They were sleeping by Leigh Creek when, at 2am, a large object fell on their tent, awakening them. Ana turned on her head lamp and looked outside to investigate, finding a thick branch. They assumed it had fallen from the tree above. Minutes later, a larger object fell on their tent. Worried that something even larger may fall on them, the couple turned on their head lamps and left the tent to investigate the situation and seek shelter in the car. Ana identified the second projectile as a grapefruit-sized rock next to the tent.
Upon exiting the tent, Jose was shot and fell to the ground. Ana heard the shot and saw movement in the bushes about 40 feet away, moving quickly toward the road. She describes the shot as “relatively quiet, maybe stifled.”
The bullet hit Jose in the chest, penetrating his lung and breaking several ribs. Local officials investigating the incident believe the caliber used may have been a .22.
The couple believes it was an attack, not a hunting accident. “Considering the branch and rock thrown at our tent, our bright headlamps and our voices, the shooter’s clear line of sight, and his close proximity, it is hard for us to imagine that it was an accident. Deer don’t wear headlamps,” says Ana.
Jose and Ana have no idea as to the motive of the attack, and did not have any altercations with anyone in the area. They emphasize that they harbor no ill feelings toward the people of Ten Sleep, and are focusing their energy on Jose’s recovery. He hopes to get back on the rock as soon as possible.
http://bighornclimbers.org/climber-shot-in-ten-sleep-canyon/
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Sep 19, 2013 - 12:31pm PT
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See?
That's useful information. Thanks Wes.
Hoping for a rapid recovery for the injured climber.
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Snowmassguy
Trad climber
Calirado
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Sep 19, 2013 - 12:43pm PT
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Bears are packing now? SMH
Yogi got a gun. The system is failing us.
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 19, 2013 - 12:44pm PT
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Nope, recipe seems pretty straightforward to me:
2 parts foreigner
1 part redneck
1 part gun
3 parts xenophobia
3 parts racism
Mix together in an ultraconservative bassackwards state.
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Chewybacca
Trad climber
Montana, Whitefish
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Sep 19, 2013 - 12:56pm PT
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In all fairness, Wyoming doesn't hold a monopoly on dumbass bigoted rednecks. They exist in every state (and country) I've lived in or visited.
Hope the victim heals OK.
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jonnyrig
Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
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Sep 19, 2013 - 01:13pm PT
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Quit making assumptions you pot smoking liberal anti-gun obambie sheeple.
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Snowmassguy
Trad climber
Calirado
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Sep 19, 2013 - 01:20pm PT
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Found the culprit
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Sep 19, 2013 - 01:21pm PT
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Being a pot smoking Obama voting gun owning moderate, I feel compelled to tell you to stop making assumptions Hillrat.
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dirt claud
Social climber
san diego,ca
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Sep 19, 2013 - 01:22pm PT
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What makes you think you need to be speaking for minorities all the time? They don't have their own voice? They can't fight their own battles because they are too weak? I know I'm the "brainwashed" conservative here and can't see all the racism, but why not let the other Hispanics or "brown" people as you like to call them, That are on ST defend themselves? Or maybe there aren't that many here to do that, oh no!! Is ST racist that more "brown" people aren't posting?
We have a fookin brain and can fight our own battles, don't need someone (a.k.a. progressive liberal white person) coming in to save us, can survive without you. Can't believe everything is so racial to you people. Even the victims are more understanding and don't just blame the "backwards community of rednecks"
What have you people seen or gone through that is so damaging that everything is about race? Racism exists, but fantasizing about how bad it is does no good. I don't know, perhaps I got really lucky and had to deal with racist or prejudice people every once in a while but never was held back by it, perhaps I'm ignorant to the plight of other minorities who were held back in life do to their race, perhaps I was not "brown" enough to be discriminated against, honestly, I don't know. I just am amazed you gyus are so fascinated by race.
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jonnyrig
Trad climber
formerly known as hillrat
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Sep 19, 2013 - 01:43pm PT
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Tongue-in-cheek. Sorta. Hope the perp gets nailed.
Wish the dude a speedy recovery btw.
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