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bluering
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Santa Clara, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - May 3, 2013 - 02:06am PT
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John, was is the kid deprived of his caring parents? After the 2nd doc said the baby was cool and the parents seemed cool?
Why?
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Risk
Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
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Sounds like everything MIGHT work out okay for this family, since this story got some attention; most don't. Here's a website with horror stories from across our nation that didn't go so well, and details of the Stalinist procedures and judicial rules that are entrenched here in the U.S; as usual, follow the money:
http://protectingourchildrenfrombeingsold.wordpress.com/
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John M
climber
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Two opposite opinions. Which is why a judge gets involved.
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John M
climber
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One doctor says one thing. Another doctor says another. It happens all of the time.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - May 3, 2013 - 02:09am PT
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What you fail to appreciate is that children are abused every single day and child protective services has a very tough job in protecting them. They have to lean towards being over protective. So the parents suffer. Better them then the child.
That's not what we're protesting about, dude! You know that!
F*#k! Change the subject....you wonder why I throw profanity at you.
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John M
climber
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And yes... there are horror stories about CPS. Those get told over and over until everyone is frightened. What isn't told over and over is how often CPS really does save a child from a dangerous situation.
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John M
climber
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I have no idea what you are protesting.
Are you saying that CPS should be disbanded and we should not ever take a child? Are you saying that a social worker should ignore a doctor?
If they did that and the second doctor turned out to be wrong, then you would be screaming about that.
And if you ever cuss me to my face I will kick your ass.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - May 3, 2013 - 02:15am PT
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What we'll be protesting is the un-Constitutional abduction of kids by the State. That child had rights, as did her legal guardians to protect her.
It's Constitutional, not political. Remember the difference forever.
There's more of this sh#t to come after they pull stuff like this.
Stick together.
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John M
climber
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So you would stop CPS from ever taking a child? Wow.. I feel bad for all the children that have been protected from crazy abusive parents.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - May 3, 2013 - 02:21am PT
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I have no idea what you are protesting.
Are you saying that CPS should be disbanded and we should not ever take a child? Are you saying that a social worker should ignore a doctor?
If they did that and the second doctor turned out to be wrong, then you would be screaming about that.
Maybe they should be disbanded, or better regulated!
And if you ever cuss me to my face I will kick your ass.
Bold words based on really stupid sh#t. Really? I cuss all the time. I mean ya no harm bro, but if you tell me what to do? I'll kiss you.
Really though, keep yer fighting words in check, John, I'm in fighting shape....not!
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John M
climber
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Disbanded? Good grief. You really have no idea how many abusive homes there are out there.
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John M
climber
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Go volunteer to be a child advocate. The first time you make a mistake and recommend leaving a child with a parent who turns out to be abusive, then we will see how much you crow. That also happens more then you realize.
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Risk
Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
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Perhaps you have no idea how many abusive and sinister CPS workers there are out there. . . . Two sides to the coin.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - May 3, 2013 - 02:33am PT
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Funny how the stupid, hateful conservative (bluey) gets attacked for defending someone from gov't Police-State sh#t.
I just came here for support from liberals who oppose this type of crap!
Yet, I get attacked. I will salute TMJesse though. Good guy!
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John M
climber
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You have a terrible way of asking for support. you insulted people by saying even liberals should agree with you, as though disagreeing with you makes them a fool or blind.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Only in the most extreme case could The Government possibly love a kid more than the kid's own parents love the kid.
Does this case classify as the most extreme?
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Risk
Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
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For them to be truthful, for one. Our family are survivors of the sanctioned corruption and lies that took away so much more than our life's savings over totally false allegations. I'm just now, after 5 years, starting t come out. I may write a book about our horrific nightmare.
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John M
climber
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I'm sorry about your situation Jesse. I wish things like that never happened. I also wish that parents never abused their children and that there was no need for CPS.
Now its time for bed.
Go volunteer as a child advocate Blue. Learn first hand just how tough it is.
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Risk
Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
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John, our CASA saved us. She saw through the BS, hung out with us, and moved things to end our nightmare. But it was pure luck. Had it been slightly different, the truth would have been buried. I am both bitter and thankful for the system and how it worked. A long story. . . .
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