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FrankZappa
Trad climber
80' from the Hankster
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Sep 27, 2012 - 12:13pm PT
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A little more info, since some of the above did not read.
The rope was hanging on Leviticus and Trinity Cracks variation; both are seldom done. The route is 12+ or so.
The climber had been on the rope every day; the rope was not unattended for longer than 24 hours.
So someone jumared up his rope and stole it and his gear because they didn't like his attitude.
Who's the "dumb-ass", JLP?
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FrankZappa
Trad climber
80' from the Hankster
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Sep 27, 2012 - 12:33pm PT
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^^^Well since it was raining at the time it's the most logical assumption.
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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Sep 27, 2012 - 12:45pm PT
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The climber had been on the rope every day; the rope was not unattended for longer than 24 hours. Wow - he can mini trax @ 12+ every day for a week with no rest days, but can't seem to actually lead it any day of the week - with nobody chiming in anywhere to say they saw the rope occupied, ever. That sounds like ... BS.
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WBraun
climber
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Sep 27, 2012 - 12:57pm PT
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Just give him his fricken rope back and be done with it.
Why all this stupid bullsh!t here.
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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Sep 27, 2012 - 01:04pm PT
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You douchnozzle thief supporters seem to think it could be related to leaving it hanging. But the more likely scenario is that it was a piece of common low life sh#t as#@&%e who has previously broken into cars and tents and stolen backpacks, which were also left unattended at the base of climbs - dumbf*#ks, and he just stole it cause HE'S A F*#KING LOWLIFE PIECE OF SH#T THIEF. That's what thieves do. They steal. They are piece of sh#t low life criminals and are thieves. That and it was easier and safer to nab than busting into a car and stealing someones stuff.
Just give him his fricken rope back and be done with it.
Nice sediment and I agree but it won't happen if the thief was just a F*#KING LOWLIFE PIECE OF SH#T COMMON THIEF. I can only hope and pray that those who support such bullshit also find yourself on the receiving end of this. Oh, you left your tent unattended with your sleeping bag in it? Oh, you left your wallet unattended inside of your house? Oh, you left your tent in a meadow. Oh, you left a pack at a base of a route unattended? Tough titty.
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this just in
climber
north fork
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Sep 27, 2012 - 01:30pm PT
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I bet it was greg from mountain project that stole it, trying to get some of us to join Mountain Project. Pretty sure.
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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Sep 27, 2012 - 02:35pm PT
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FrankZ sounds like a good friend to have, getting on here and relaying all this information and defending it. Where's EDJ? He seemed to do such a marvelous job of presenting himself over on MP.com, why not here? Why are you here doing it for him?
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michaeld
Sport climber
Sacramento
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Sep 27, 2012 - 02:37pm PT
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Just give him his fricken rope back and be done with it.
Why all this stupid bullsh!t here.
America.
"Slack! Ya dipstick."
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o-man
Social climber
Paia,Maui,HI
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Sep 27, 2012 - 02:43pm PT
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This case is being argued in two different states.
This should go to the Super-Ream court for a ruling.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Sep 27, 2012 - 03:02pm PT
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Wow, getting up toward 100 posts here.
It wasn't stolen, it was abandoned.
After 24 hrs it's considered booty, doesn't matter who you are or what the project might be.
1) I'm not for leaving ropes on things for months on end.
2) But I call bullshit on the statement above. 24 hrs of fixed rope has NEVER equaled booty in any place I've ever climbed.
3) Who you are, and what the project is has a ton to do with it. BITD, if Kauk or Bachar or many others had a rope on some project for a couple days, no one would dream of stealing it.
4) Who here has left fixed ropes before? I had lines on the bottom of Pacific Ocean wall for a week, and that was only a measly 9th ascent or something.
5)Harding and many contemporaries left fixed ropes for long periods.
Alan Watts and company left ropes draped all over Smith during "the revolution" Nobody stole their sh#t......
I think it has everything to do with local politics and egos, not a fixed line.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Sep 27, 2012 - 03:08pm PT
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Survival, i beg to differ with you. Who you are and what project you are on should make ABSOLUTELY NO difference. The same standards should apply to everyone, and we wonder why elite climbers often end up with a sense of entiltlement.
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goatboy smellz
climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
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Sep 27, 2012 - 03:10pm PT
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Survival, Eldo is different than Yosemite.
It's a State Park that has already been regulated to death as far as climbing goes. Personally I really don't care just stating it's not wise to push the basic rules the State park has on such a highly visible crag.
If this was on SoBo or Micky Mouse Wall I doubt it would have resulted in this amount of butthurt and the rope would still be there.
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this just in
climber
north fork
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Sep 27, 2012 - 03:27pm PT
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Right on que cosmic. HAHAHAHA
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Sep 27, 2012 - 03:46pm PT
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The same standards should apply to everyone, and we wonder why elite climbers often end up with a sense of entiltlement.
Jim, I agree, but the key word in your post is "should". If a nasty rude loud mouth from New Jersey left a rope up, and you or Kauk left a rope up nearby, there would be a difference. That's the only point I was trying to make.
Actually, the real point had to do with the 24 hour red light. No one would expect their rope to be legal booty 24 hours later.
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goatboy smellz
climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
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Sep 27, 2012 - 04:25pm PT
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You've been out in the boonies to long Survival where climbers are still nice to each other.
This is Boulder we're talking about where people barely even say hello to each other at the crags or boulders. If you leave anything, don't expect it to be there tomorrow.
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Dickbob
climber
Westminster Colorado
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Sep 27, 2012 - 04:37pm PT
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My nine year old daughter went through a faze a while back where we had to teach her to not do things as mellow as plucking leaves of off the neighbors trees. Those leaves are not our leaves. That lawn is not our lawn, you should not walk on it. Sucks to live in that extreme of a world but I do. She is young but I am positive she would never touch anything that is not hers. Pretty basic really..
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mtnyoung
Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
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Sep 27, 2012 - 04:41pm PT
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Is this guy Greg@ serious? Really:
"Have you had enough of this ill-mannered and obnoxious treatment after sharing such an irksome and unsettling experience? "
His site sounds like the climbing forum equivalent of sharia law. No thanks.
Greg, are women allowed to post on your site?
Someone tell me he's joking.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Sep 27, 2012 - 04:41pm PT
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This is Boulder we're talking about where people barely even say hello to each other at the crags or boulders.
Ooops, I forgot!
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Sep 27, 2012 - 04:58pm PT
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Thank gawd Jeremy didn't treat me like the old sh#t that I am.
He just gave me sh#t about the age of my gear and then put me on belay....
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Fish Boy
Trad climber
Vancouver
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Sep 27, 2012 - 05:51pm PT
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This "Greg @" alias was first used on Teton Gravity Forums. TGR is a highly unmoderated ski forum full of hilarious peeps and lots of porn. There is another ski forum called Alpinezone, which is heavily moderated and family friendly. Greg used to invite people to join Alpinezone all the time, this is just a send up of that.
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