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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Aug 24, 2012 - 12:07am PT
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BFD if Lance doped...I think his other accomplishments , surviving cancer and living the grueling lifestyle of a pro rider far out shine any accusations the peanut gallery can throw at him...And do i have to mention the exposure Armstrong gave to the American cycling industry...? RJ
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Aug 24, 2012 - 12:08am PT
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He's every bit the hero that Barry Bonds is...oh and Michael Vick...Pete Rose...
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this just in
climber
north fork
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Aug 24, 2012 - 12:10am PT
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Funny, how things change. The poster boy of cycling, being hunted by those who promoted him, because he was great for the sport and ratings. Same bullshit with baseball, when Sosa and McGuire were battling for the single season home run record. MLB pumped it up for ratings, then crucified them when doping became a problem. Like they didn't support the ratings and money it brought and played dumb in knowing it was happening. All the same sh#t to make money and guess what they're using Armstrong to get headlines again. "don't hate the player, hate the game" actually don't hate any of it, it's just a game and who gives a sh#t.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Aug 24, 2012 - 12:15am PT
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By the agreed upon standards in place, he did not dope, PERIOD. A+B samples, positive...they didn't have them, thus no evidence. Hearsay from the pelton is not a positive sample. Some wankers with a hard on for LA, also not a positive sample.
My intial thoughts were:
1. Who the F$%^k is the USADA, and
2. On what planet are they living if they think they have some kind of authority over who does or does not hold the TDF titles.
These clowns are so far out to lunch they're having a picnic on Mars. I wouldn't bother with them either if I were him. "You're stripping my titles? Bwhahaha, you don't have the authority dipshits. You're giving me a life ban? I'm retired dipshits. Go f*#k yourselves"
Good for LA. At some point you have to say "enough is enough".
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crunch
Social climber
CO
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Aug 24, 2012 - 12:16am PT
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No one's immune. I heard they were investigating Donini next....
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MisterE
Social climber
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Aug 24, 2012 - 12:17am PT
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WBraun
climber
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Aug 24, 2012 - 12:18am PT
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You're giving me a life ban? I'm retired dipshits. Go f*#k yourselves"
LOL
I thought the same thing.
Hows that work anyways?
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Aug 24, 2012 - 12:20am PT
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Chief...What Tour did Jack Shite ride in...? RJ
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Aug 24, 2012 - 12:22am PT
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I heard Donini was the Tiger Woods of camp four...?
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WBraun
climber
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Aug 24, 2012 - 12:22am PT
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Chief has a good argument so we'll just have to see how it plays out.
This will be vedy interesting .......
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Aug 24, 2012 - 12:25am PT
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Meanwhile the artic melts...
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Aug 24, 2012 - 12:25am PT
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No one's immune. I heard they were investigating Donini next....
Geez. I thought that one would stay buried. But since you bring it up, what I heard is that Donini accidentally combined the doses for all four guys on that Latok trip into his own syringe. It gave him super powers, but once the investigation gets rolling they'll definitely strip him of all his first ascents.
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Curt
Boulder climber
Gilbert, AZ
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Aug 24, 2012 - 12:29am PT
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Chief has a good argument so we'll just have to see how it plays out.
This will be vedy interesting .......
If The Chief were less selective in his outrage, he might have something. This will be interesting, though.
Curt
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Aug 24, 2012 - 12:33am PT
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The UCI owes the USADA nothing. As a matter of fact, they may resent this. Let's wait and see. Looks like a chess game. May not save him though.
Pretty lame to bring it so far after the fact. Someone has a big ol' hairy hard on to take Lance down.
Good reason for pictures of Sheryl. Thanks E ;-)
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Aug 24, 2012 - 12:34am PT
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By the time they get done DQing riders there will be no records in the tour.
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Curt
Boulder climber
Gilbert, AZ
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Aug 24, 2012 - 12:35am PT
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Pretty lame to bring it so far after the fact. Someone has a big ol' hairy hard on to take Lance down.
The Chief runs USADA? I guess everything makes perfect sense now.
Curt
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Aug 24, 2012 - 12:39am PT
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OH NO! He f*#ked up the Ride Around France game!
Hurry, let's get Congress involved!!!!
F*#king Americans. Want the biggest heroes, with the biggest muscles and the best times. So focused on being #1 that we forget sometimes that to be #1 means you have be a very, very smart cheater.
Cycling is on the extreme low-technical end. I am not in any way, shape, or form a voice in the cycling world but here's whats up.
The less technical prowess needed, the more of an effect supplimentation is going to have.
cycling is so simplistic that it is one of the most even playing fields. This isn't MMA where some guys are wrestlers, some guys strike, some guys do both. This isn't climbing where some guys boulder, some like to rope up.
Sh#t, this isn't even Alpinism, where the weather and conditions can make litmus tests impossible.
This is like Nordic skiing, a game of V02 Max. It is performing 'almost' in a vacuum. Yes, there is skill involved - I used to be a competitive runner (kind of still am, but I compete terribly. I know all about competing in very straightforward, very boring sports.)
Long story short, Congress met more for the Steroid scandal in baseball than the Iraq or Afghanistan war.
We love underdogs. We love old dogs. We love happy stories. That's why Lance made us all feel like we got kicked in the dick.
Americans don't own his triumphs, no more than we own his defeats. He was a dude, who f*#ked up. The fact that people feel so shitty to him is absolutely, stunningly mind boggling.
Educate yourselves on PED's, on TRT, on blood doping. Then train at a world class level. Then have the entire country behind you, expecting a win; anything else is failure. Have some empathy.
When I was 12 I beat the f*#k out of a small jewish kid in junior high. He wasn't cool, was super tiny, and was kind of an as#@&%e. One day I snapped, and gave it to him. I don't remember his name, or a lot about it, but it was the shittiest, lowest I've felt in my life, and it stays with me to this day. I'm going to bet that my f*#k up hurt the world a lot less than a road cyclist trying to use a banned substance.
Am I disappointed? Sure. I wanted it to be real, too, because that pull of Patriotism and familiarity is pretty strong. I wish he made better decisions, but for his own good. To be honest, the only reason almost any of us are rooting for him is because his parents decided to sh#t him out in Texas instead of Tehran.
If after reading my rant, if you haven't found peace and solice (not likely, sh#t I don't even got that) I have one last thought. How much have YOU raised to cure cancer? I hope it's a lot. I haven't done sh#t.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Aug 24, 2012 - 12:40am PT
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There are millions of dollars in endorsements and prize money at stake here
Sh#t, I wonder why he cheated... LOL
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gonzo chemist
climber
Fort Collins, CO
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Aug 24, 2012 - 12:41am PT
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I think they should take away the Rolling Stones' gold (and platinum) albums. Those guys were doped out of their minds!
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