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ec
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ca
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Aug 16, 2012 - 12:40pm PT
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Romney believes that the bible is more important than the US constitution.
SLR, Romney's a Mormon...I'll read more into that statement...
 ec
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Chinchen
climber
Way out there....
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Aug 16, 2012 - 12:40pm PT
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Aug 16, 2012 - 12:43pm PT
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Good question Jody. I was throwing the paradox you made and throwing it your way as well. Emphasizing the recursive in the ironic.
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Chinchen
climber
Way out there....
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Aug 16, 2012 - 12:56pm PT
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We agree on something then. Praise beer.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Aug 16, 2012 - 01:08pm PT
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Christians and Atheists aren't the problem. Bigots are, and they are on both sides.
BTW bigots aren't just racists. They are defined by Merriam-Webster as "a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially: one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance".
e.g. Christians who don't tolerate Muslims. Muslims who don't tolerate Christians. Atheists who don't tolerate both. Anyone who doesn't tolerate gay people.
Many people understand that others have different views than they do and can tolerate that. Others are so unable to admit they could be wrong and everyone is entitled to believe what they want that they take offense at other's beliefs and try to force their beliefs on them. Or worse they use their beliefs to justify their bigotry and prejudice.
Thankfully I think bigots and that thinking is in the minority. Most people are good and respectful. And it seems less and less people are bigots as time goes by.
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Tobia
Social climber
Denial
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Aug 16, 2012 - 01:08pm PT
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I though it would be nice to have a thread where SuperTopo Christians could tell tell their story and make a statement of faith.
One more and then I'm done. Spider wasn't ramming anything down anyone's throat when he started the thread. He asked some simple questions to a specific group. Where's the harm in that?
There is no reason to respond if it doesn't apply to you. If it offends you; it is on you, not him.
I have seen Spider post on many threads and never have I seen where he posted anything about his faith (I avoid the threads where this type of exchange is usually found).
So what is the basis for all the posts that don't directly answer his questions or address them in a manner he seeks? Intolerance and disrespect are the first things that come to mind.
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Psilocyborg
climber
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Aug 16, 2012 - 01:09pm PT
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I think it is funny that people are intolerant of intolerant Christians.
It's all about love people. It doesn't matter how you are treated. It's all about love love love.
When someone tells you that you are going to hell, love love love. It isn't easy, but it's what is right. People that judge need it the most.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Aug 16, 2012 - 01:10pm PT
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When was the last time someone told you you're going to hell?
Seriously.
I suspect the problem you speak of exists only in your immagination.
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Psilocyborg
climber
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Aug 16, 2012 - 01:11pm PT
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It has been awhile, but it has happened plenty of times, seriously.
Actually I take that back, a few weeks ago I got in a spiritual conversation with my father, he basically said "if you don't agree with me, you must be influenced by Satan."
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can't say
Social climber
Pasadena CA
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Aug 16, 2012 - 01:13pm PT
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Tobia, if your post was directed at me, I wasn't dissing Spider's thread intent but since the conversation spread way beyond the thesis of his original intent, my post about my thoughts on spirituality are germane to the conversation as any posted so far.
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Chinchen
climber
Way out there....
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Aug 16, 2012 - 01:18pm PT
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This is a climbing forum. Certain unspoken rules apply. Talking about religion and politics is generally thought to be bad subject matter...I wonder why. If you are going to bring it up expect to be hassled.
ESPECIALLY IN A FORUM WHERE WE CANNOT CATEGORIZE THE THREADS CHRIS.
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Jennie
Trad climber
Elk Creek, Idaho
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Aug 16, 2012 - 01:22pm PT
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Romney believes that the bible is more important than the US constitution. Now that's frightening and threatening.
Did he assert which fruit was most important?
…so frightening when those Mexican Mormon Mango fanatics enunciate supremacy of mango cheesecake over American apple pie.
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Aug 16, 2012 - 01:27pm PT
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Knot me
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micronut
Trad climber
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Aug 16, 2012 - 01:33pm PT
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Neversummer,
That was awesome.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Aug 16, 2012 - 01:37pm PT
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Actually,
it say "climbERS" forum
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Tobia
Social climber
Denial
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Aug 16, 2012 - 01:44pm PT
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Christian Life and (OT) should hint to what is following. How many times has it been stated that this is a forum for climbers, not limited to climbing?
For example, Tuesday Night Posting....OP Chinchen
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rectorsquid
climber
Lake Tahoe
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Aug 16, 2012 - 02:08pm PT
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I think it is funny that people are intolerant of intolerant Christians.
It is not the intolerant Christians that upset non-Christians, it is the manipulative Christians that seek to make this a Christian nation and change the government to suit their religion, that are a problem for others. It is not a matter of being easily offended, it is a matter of being forced to follow religious rules while not being a person of that religion. That's what sucks.
Dave
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Fish Finder
Social climber
THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART
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Aug 16, 2012 - 02:29pm PT
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Why did god create christians ?
somebody has to pay retail !
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Fish Finder
Social climber
THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART
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Aug 16, 2012 - 02:38pm PT
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Do you think your better than anybody? anyone?
Jody - "All you atheists better hope you are right."
Jody - "I just pray for their souls on a daily basis"
As BuddhaStalin mentioned: this is the kind of crap that gives christianity a bad name.
Upiddy and Pompous
Your beliefs are yours. Mine are mine. Cant we just keep it at that.
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