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TrundleBum
Trad climber
Las Vegas
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Jun 28, 2012 - 06:19pm PT
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Cool a sailing thread.
Perhaps this could be cross ref'd with Olaf's thread 'oer @ Mountainproject
This should prove to be a long and often bumped thread ;)
Already asked/discussed here on the TacoStand:
Surfing v. Climbing... Complimentary Pursuits?
The basic question:
"Can mountain and ocean experiences be a synergistic combo"?
The Basic answer:
"how about salt and pepper,
or beer and brats or saki and sushi...?"
Some things are just so different yet complimentary at the elementary level !
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Speaking of Condor being restored:
Ever seen a restored J-Boat
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 28, 2012 - 07:52pm PT
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Yes, I believe that Munin planes - she doesn't really have a keel. They told me that they've had her up to thirteen knots under sail, and seven with rowers. The latter taking a bit of practice, I believe.
The negative is that she's of the langskip variety, and so not as seaworthy as a knorr, which were more cargo vessels, albeit slower.
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Jun 28, 2012 - 10:19pm PT
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Here is a classic we cruised with off and on throughout the South Pacific in the early to mid 80s.
Cambria is similar to a J boat but is in reality a K boat . Designed by the master William Fife and built in 1928. In 1972 a friend of mine found her rotting in the mudflats in Marseille, bought her for a song and with a very small crew sailed her back across the Atlantic. A Grade VI in its own right. Years of work and a conversion from a sloop to a ketch and she was ready for action.
This is a really BIG BOAT:
113 ft L.O.D. (length on deck) 75 ft L.W.L.(length water line) 20ft Beam and 13-6 Draft
We first met them via ham radio in mid Pacific while in transit from Mexico to the Marquesas and parked next to each other on the Quay in Papeete, Tahiti. We were low on coffee and they happen to have twenty #100 bags of excellent Costa Rican beans. A friendship was quickly consummated.
The crew of Cambria would have quickly assimilated into a Camp 4 environment. Wild, crazy, multi talented, several outlaws, beautiful ladies and gents, and some very creative people with a united get loose and let's have a good time attitude. A yacht of this size is a major undertaking. The loads on gear on astronomical and one could easily get injured. Their record for reefing the main was 32 minutes. In a big blow or nasty squall we try to get the main reefed in under 3 min. But when you are dealing with 1000s of sq ft it is a challenge indeed.
Our claim to fame was, with our small crew, we beat Cambria in a game of Trivial Pursuit. But then again, we had Del Johns fresh from Americaca as our ringer.
God she was a beauty when she was sailing!
I remember their prop shaft was 60 ft long!
Cambria is now owned by a very wealthy individual, the crew are obligated to wear the official shirts, talk only when spoken to, and follow all the BS etiquette of famous yacht clubs. In essence the complete antithesis of days gone by. Gone are the fun days of no itinerary, low budget, and go where the wind blows.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jun 29, 2012 - 11:22am PT
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So, Guido, Cambria is surely a looker and, it would appear, a goer. So when
being sailed by your descript debauched prize crew who wanked around taking half an hour to
take in a reef what did they do at night before the advent of Stormscopes?
Did they drastically shorten down to jibs and spanker, or what?
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jun 29, 2012 - 11:29am PT
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Why, they reefed the coxswain, lashed the swabbie, and jibbed the aft starboard bow you idjit!
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jun 29, 2012 - 11:35am PT
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Thanks for the clarification, Survival, but there's only one 'b' in the verb
'jibe', you lubber. :-)
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Jun 29, 2012 - 01:00pm PT
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Reilly
survival's just jibbing ya ter see if yer awake, myte.
guido
I was with Mike and Diane just last week. Good friends of mine. Unfortunately I didn't know them in the Cambria days. We sat on the couch going through their old photo scrapbooks through an evening and a bottle of wine.
What great times that crew had.
A little more history on Cambria
When Mike found her in France she was little more than a hulk sitting up on timbers. Since he had to rebuild her from the keel up and for cruising he wanted an easier boat to sail, Mike added the mizzen mast to turn her into a ketch.
She was originally a single screw, therefore a real PITA to reverse. Mike converted her to two diesels/shafts, added refrigeration, air compressor for dive tanks, state of the art for the day electronics, beautifully restored the cabins/staterooms, etc.
Guido's first pics show her as Mike had fitted her out. Photos of her below decks would take your breath away.
When Mike and Diane sold her, the new owner converted her back to her original sloop sailplan as Guido's next to last pic shows.
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The Alpine
Big Wall climber
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Jun 29, 2012 - 01:29pm PT
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Verse from a song I wrote recently:
Listen to Mike
or you'll be sailing your coffin
he gives great advice
so reef early reef often!
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Marlow
Sport climber
OSLO
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Jun 29, 2012 - 01:42pm PT
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What Guido makes his life look like:
The trinity - climbing, sailing and the spirit of the flesh.
Not bad, not bad at all...
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Nov 26, 2012 - 01:45pm PT
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^^^Dood, they don't perform well in sand.
edit:
Guido, I see two different Condors. I will take either one.
Not that I could afford to even berth one of them.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Nov 26, 2012 - 02:00pm PT
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Timmc
climber
BC
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Nov 26, 2012 - 02:20pm PT
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stevep
Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
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Nov 26, 2012 - 03:59pm PT
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It's kind of strange-looking, but it's the fastest wind powered boat in the world (by some distance):
http://www.sailrocket.com/
65 knots on Saturday! For those of you non-nautical types, that's 75mph.
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SCseagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz
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Nov 26, 2012 - 06:05pm PT
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I think I might need a sailboat.
There...I said it.
WOO HOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well if this were on the Friday Night Drunk post I could understand...now a dose of reality....
Before sailing...lots of prep work
Looks like bottom work needed here
Nothing like working over your head up in a center board trunk grinding out bad spots.
Not so bad:
Ahh, lets clean up the wiring in the Nav Station
Now we can figure it out...
Now lets sail for 18 days single handed to Hawaii...are we having fun yet?
But in between the crazy prep work and the exhaustion there are things you'll just never see any other way.
leaving Hanalei under a rainbow...
then 18 days later arriving in Sitka...Mt. Edgecumbe
oh yeah...and Glaciers, such as Tracy Arm
Fighting bergie bits...
Sunsets like no where else
And then home...the Golden Gate....it's all worth it...
So what can I say, go get the sailboat, lots of time for climbing in between the big jobs....
Susan
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Nov 26, 2012 - 08:19pm PT
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Kickin the Tires in Santa Barbara Marina
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