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BruceAnderson
Social climber
Los Angeles currently St. Antonin, France
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I grew up in L.A. (and spent many a day at Stoney Point). Last year my wife and I sold our business and packed it in for a tiny village in SW France. Here's where I call home There's over 100 routes on the cliff you see, and it's only one of seven or so crags within 10 minutes drive. It's another world.
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Gary, re your question: Hey Fritz, it gets lonely in the winter up on Choss Creek?
Lonely year round in Choss Creek. That's one of the attractions. Got my own chossy little crag, good fishing within a mile, and never a traffic jam.
No golf course in Choss Creek though. Good!
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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^^^Wow beautiful Bruce.
I left San Diego after 4 years there some 33 years ago for the western slope of the Tahoe Sierra. Best thing I ever did, love my access to the crags of summer and the slopes of winter. But what's kept me here is the community. Great people and families, some like myself an urban refugee with a passion for the outdoors. Yea I live and work where I want to and have grown roots into the ground at 3,000 ft. in Camino or as region knows it, Apple Hill.
Nice Fritz!
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jopay
climber
so.il
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Well I think you should live where the scenery can make you cry, I've cried in Colorado.
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Branscomb
Trad climber
Lander, WY
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Lander is pretty nice. Lots of climbing 10 minutes from the house. Nice place to raise a child and we have lots of space on the edge of town.
I still miss CA: the climate is amazing and there is nothing like CA granite, but there are just too many people there for me anymore. Need the space and lots of untrodden stone and the rough edge of fellow rednecks to keep me happy.
So, Lander is pretty nice. Tough place to make a living, because it's small and some of the environmental attitudes of the locals make me cringe, but it's no worse than the conservative good ol' boy place I grew up in (Placerville)so what drives most urbanites up the wall about central Wyoming, I'm like, okay.
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ddriver
Trad climber
SLC, UT
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I don't know if that place really exists.
Right now this spot is pretty high on my list:
I like Hank's choice as well.
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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dang locker, is that you surfin that yak?
full props
doing the moke races this weekend , head for Jackson, CA
im goin to jackson, look out jackson town,
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Captain...or Skully
climber
Where are you bound?
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Returning to the OP, sure.
It's a pretty good place.
Ya can't have everything. But you CAN have a lot.
Be careful in all that boatin', there Locker. Water can be a Mighty force.
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o-man
Social climber
Paia,Maui,HI
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Yes!
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SeanH
Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
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I live in SF. It's a far better place than many people in the US live in, but, still not perfect.
I only live here though because I'm in software, and I find it the most exciting place in the Bay Area. Also I'm single, and living in the peninsula/south bay sucked for that.
But really? I want to live in Mammoth. I'd kill to wake up every morning, see the mountains in the distance, go to a local coffee place and see friendly faces, and not deal with traffic. I wouldn't mind consistently working 50+ hour weeks for that. Every day I'd be happy. A big worry would be finding "the one" though. I do feel that a lot of primo, destination spots for outdoor activities are very one sided when it comes to gender balance. Guess I'd have to roll the dice on that one.
I've considered Colorado, because you can be so much closer to the activities I like (climbing, skiing). Being able to go crag after work instead of going to a climbing gym would be amazing. But the truth? I LOVE the sierras. Yosemite, tahoe, the east side....all of it. I almost feel like Colorado would be a pyrrhic victory.
SLC would be high on the list, save for one small thing :)
One reason I responded though (great subject btw), is that I've considered this: Would it be crazy to make a post on mountain project/here/summitpost looking for other similar people in the tech world that also love the outdoors? I'd LOVE to start a software company on the east side, or somewhere similar. In many days, thanks to the internet, location doesn't mean squat. You do need to find talented people, but I feel like there's got to be a decent number of engineers (ok, nerds) that also love the outdoors. And rent all that should be cheap. I suppose I'd consider Durango or somewhere near Moab too...could hit up the hardcore mountain bikers too. What say you ST readers? As much as I love the fact that it takes me 4-7 hours driving to spend my weekends in a place that many people travel the world for, I feel like it's still not close enough. Worth trying to find some others in the same boat?
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Delhi Dog
climber
Good Question...
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Well come on Delhi, India whatdayathink?
Of course-this IS the center of the universe.
We have everything here-everything.
A desert just out back,
big mountains not too far away,
Naked people walking around,
camels and elephants and monkeys oh my,
rich, poor, about 5000 different languages,
lots and lots of whiskey,
religions in plenty,
corruption, neighbors with nukes,
smells and tastes that really are quite wonderful,
and nauseating all at the same time...you can taste the smells,
and smell the flavors,
crags with sh*t,
and sh*t crags,
Heck I can go eat at at least 8 different ambassadors' homes by just placing a call, I don't have to even read the political threads here...
and the water...have I mentioned the water?
Butt, the world is a big place so I won't be here for ever...
Cheers
oh ya, and all the hash you'd care to smoke-a minor point butt I should make it I suppose
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Charlie D.
Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
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SeanH,
I sent you a PM this morning, your idea is a good one and something I've been thinking about. Here's where the fit might be for you and others with similar thoughts.
Years ago I moved here to Placerville to climb/ski and live in the mountains. The problem has always been work, I was fortunate and built up a significant business as an architect doing institutional work. Our business expanded into offices in Sacramento, Placerville and now SLC. We had designed and built a significant project for our offices in historic downtown Placerville; it is a LEED Gold project, all naturally day lite etc. really great work environment. Then the design/construction economy collapsed so we are downsizing with a focus on Sacramento and the Intermountain West.
The western slope of the Sierra has a mixed reputation concerning the folks here. Many outsiders feel its simply full of red-necks, meth freaks, fundamentalist and gun nuts. Certainly that elements exists here but there are a whole lot of folks like myself that moved here for the mountain lifestyle not to mention the many great local people who perhaps left, got educated and figured out how to make a living back home. There are a whole lot of other fine locals who have figured it out. What works for me I'm still relatively close to Sacramento and the bay area for business and my urban fixes and urges.
Currently we are talking with a bio-tech company (the owner loves horses) about moving into the building and are looking for other complimentary business's. A tech start up would be ideal. I would encourage anyone of you out there to send me a PM if this is something that might resonate with you. I can't help believe there are many in business that can be virtually anywhere but would not wish to leave CA because of business, family or what attributes you do enjoy despite the 37 million people co-located here, the quality of rock in the Sierra is one of them for me as well.
Sorry for the somewhat self-serving post but I love living here and know El Dorado County is an great community that will continue to improve as a quality place to live and work.
Charlie D.
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Jonny D
Social climber
Lost Angelez, Kalifornia
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moved to new mexico from l.a a few months ago. although i'd love to visit l.a from time to time, i can't say that i'm missing it, it's pretty easy to get a better quality of life elsewhere.
i don't really know if any place is perfect, i know i will feel restless here pretty soon and will need a trip or two away every year. ideally being bi-residential would be the a good system for me.
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foxglove
Social climber
long beach ca
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i just came from washington and that place was so amazing the food the trees but i counldnt take the rain, and the fact i got married to a mean ass didnt help either, so im back in LA which is smoggy dirty and full of ppl who are delusional. but i also lived in yosemite and i was alone alot and i dont think thats good either. mayne i need to just grow up out of these hormones and do some more running. im happiest when im busy with something either creating or learning
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Stewart Johnson
climber
lake forest
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been around the world a few times .
love the lake.
edit: dehli dog! we got all the best weed here.just sayin.
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AP
Trad climber
Calgary
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Not Yet, I have land in the Okanagan (BC) waiting for a house to be built.
I should be there in 3 years, or if my company gets sold it could be next spring. Within 20 minutes drive there is great cragging (Skaha), road biking, mntn biking, wineries, organic fruit, fishing,skiing in winter, lake activities in summer.
Calgary is good but getting kind of old. Time for a change
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bergbryce
Mountain climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
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One reason I responded though (great subject btw), is that I've considered this: Would it be crazy to make a post on mountain project/here/summitpost looking for other similar people in the tech world that also love the outdoors? I'd LOVE to start a software company on the east side, or somewhere similar. In many days, thanks to the internet, location doesn't mean squat. You do need to find talented people, but I feel like there's got to be a decent number of engineers (ok, nerds) that also love the outdoors. And rent all that should be cheap. I suppose I'd consider Durango or somewhere near Moab too...could hit up the hardcore mountain bikers too. What say you ST readers? As much as I love the fact that it takes me 4-7 hours driving to spend my weekends in a place that many people travel the world for, I feel like it's still not close enough. Worth trying to find some others in the same boat?
Some people have done this already in Truckee.
Personally, I'd love to see more business like this. If you're doing IT, location these days doesn't mean what it used to. People can work from basically anywhere and a guy or gal who can go for a trail run in the mountains during their break is going to be a lot happier than one stuck in a cube in Nowheresville.
Boulder has been the main draw for these kinds of reasons, but we all know Boulder is too damn' expensive for most people to live in. Plus the skiing access sucks.
There are dozens of affordable towns that offer what you are talking about, but what Tahoe has over others is 3 hours to the IT hub of the nation and most likely no shortage of workers willing to relocate.
The one thing I've learned living and working from Tahoe, and this might seem like a no-brainer..... but you still have to WORK and meet those deadlines in order to get paid. While it's truly an improvement to be able to get in a dawn patrol lap or go cragging after work, you'll still be putting in your hours and you'll spend time looking out the window wishing you could be on the other side of the glass. Balance is key, and it's tough.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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But really? I want to live in Mammoth. I'd kill to wake up every morning, see the mountains in the distance, go to a local coffee place and see friendly faces, and not deal with traffic.
It's all about tradeoffs, Sean. I had a client in Mammoth several years ago who had two degrees from Stanford, but wanted to live in Mammoth. He ended up owning a business that required a lot more work than being a professor, and probably made less money, but allowed him to live in Mammoth, ski in the winter (of course, he had a lot of work then, too) and bike in the Summer. I thought he was a very wise man.
John
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bergbryce
Mountain climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
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PM sent Charlie....
I'm a GIS professional with 10 years + experience, interested in projects of about any size. Have done lots of cartography, analysis, and even programming. A pretty well-rounded GIS grunt.
Count me in.
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ydpl8s
Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
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Lived most of my life in the Denver - Golden area but moved to Santa Monica 3 yrs ago. I've never lived by the beach before and I like it.
I've traveled quite a bit and I'm thinking that the best place I've been that I thought I'd want to live was Bend Oregon. Smith Rocks, Cascade camping, climbing and skiing. I haven't been there for quite a few years, is it still nice, or has it turned into another Aspen type place with inflated housing costs?
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