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Mighty Hiker

climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Feb 25, 2011 - 06:30pm PT
It's bad form to be stemmed out at a hanging belay with your butt 5 inches above another party's face, and then cut loose with earth-melting rotten @ss stench. Saying "sorry" just isn't good enough, and you can't run away. This could have been avoided by not eating pork the night before when "intestinal issues" were to be expected.
Who said the other party had to follow right on your ass? If you choose to climb beneath others, don't complain if they drop something on you - it sometimes happens. It is also no secret that climbers, who are physically active and eat a good diet, sometimes fart.

Given that climbers not only sometimes fart, but are obliged or choose to neglect personal hygiene, I don't know that I'd ever want to get close to one of their posteriors.
Leggs

Sport climber
El Presidio, Tucson
Feb 25, 2011 - 07:06pm PT
...jizz in a finger crack


Shut. your. face.
Chinchen

climber
Way out there....
Feb 25, 2011 - 08:44pm PT
To address the OP....Tying up more routes than you are climbing is bad form. Tope roping a climb and letting everyone in your party(no matter how many) climb is NOT bad form.


Levy...
As for using a screwdriver to clean a route. Seems fine to me. Not the same as chipping which infers carving holds.

"If you alter the rock from it's natural state, it's hacked. Get it?"...
So if you break a foothold while standing on it then you are an as#@&%e????




As for my list of bad form:

As someone stated earlier, leaving any trash especially climbing tape, butts, or twist ties.

Spraying beta to strangers.

Asking a team ahead of you if you can go before them because you are in a hurry or suspect they will be slow.

Set up your kitchen and proceed to make pasta underneath one of the most common warmups in the Buttermilks.....then get angry when I sit down on your cutting board and climb it.





Spike Flavis

Trad climber
Truckee California
Feb 26, 2011 - 03:05am PT
Playing any musical instruments at campgrounds or crags, No one ever wants to here you-ever! or getting loud and drunk in a campground and keeping others awake who, believe it or not, came there to climb. Being too hungover to climb. Getting in a fight with your boyfriend or girlfriend at the crags. Dogs that bark at everyone all day long. Giving beta / advice to a climbers who didn't ask for it "you know what route you guys should do...blah, blah, blah"
426

climber
Feb 26, 2011 - 08:34am PT
Playing any musical instruments at campgrounds or crags, No one ever wants to here you-ever!

As a generality sure, but I have heard some "5.15a/b" talent in rare circumstance...and glad they brought the axe...
hossjulia

Social climber
Eastside
Feb 26, 2011 - 09:45am PT
Playing a musical instrument at a campground/crag! yougottabekiddinme. KNOTT the same as blasting your favorite music. Why? I dunno, more organic or somethin. I love acoustic guitar and will pretty much stop what I'm doing to listen. Ditto for flutes and such. Never heard any electrified music out campin', besides at a party where that was the theme. Really glad boom boxes went out of style at the crags though, you are right there, no one wants to listen to what you like. I like silence when I climb, but a little guitar accompaniment would be nice. Conversely, I almost have to listen to music while I ski, or I suck. Speaking of which, a foot or more of fresh awaits!
drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Feb 26, 2011 - 09:48am PT
Litter.
General kook behavior.
Etc.


Edit-
Oh, and shortroping...or sportlooping...
Give a good belay dammit!
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Feb 26, 2011 - 10:37am PT
I love acoustic guitar and will pretty much stop what I'm doing to listen.

The problem is everyone that plays one thinks they can sing.
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Feb 26, 2011 - 12:11pm PT
Bad form to:

Deck.
Deck while free soloing.
Gangbang TR the first pitch of muli-pitch routes.
Invade an occupied belay on a multipitch without asking(oui oui frenchie, I'm talkin to you)
Bogart the doob.
Not clean off your tick marks.
Yell unsolicited beta to strangers.
Walk up to an occupied belayer and start asking them 20 questions.

Not finish and vacate a climb that you are TRing, in a reasonable amount of time, for a person who wants to lead it.

A corollary to the above, bad form to ask someone to get their TR off it so you can lead it, then hang all over it because it's over your head to lead.
gonamok

climber
dont make me come over there
Feb 27, 2011 - 02:17am PT
give unwanted beta

knock crap down from above

step on someones rope

solo a route while people are climbing it

draw attention to yourself while soloing

beg for beers

let your dog run all over the place

bogart your way onto somebodys rope just so you can fire the route
LuckyPink

climber
the last bivy
Feb 27, 2011 - 02:35am PT
...tie off your leader while you go back to the truck for more beer.
Dropline

Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
Feb 27, 2011 - 02:57am PT
...tie off your leader while you go back to the truck for more beer.

I don't get it. What's wrong with that?
Gal

Trad climber
a semi lucid consciousness
Feb 27, 2011 - 03:11am PT
Yeah, I'd wait for the beer.

Anyone notice this... sometimes it seems people spit, or hawk loogies or whatever you want to call it, on the approach to a place... That's really gross and no like.
sac

Trad climber
Sun Coast B.C.
Feb 27, 2011 - 12:50pm PT
as as belayer, to sing the "Happy Hanukkah" song, incessantly
while the leader is focussing on the task at hand.
(in my case,being the leader, on a "heady" Josh 5.8)
ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
bouldering
Oct 18, 2012 - 12:52am PT
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Sierra Ledge Rat

Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
Oct 18, 2012 - 01:39am PT
it is bad form in rockclimbing to...
trundle on another climbing party, unless they're from Scotland


gonamok why is it bad form to solo a route when other people are on it?
I always just passed 'em at one of their belays
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Oct 18, 2012 - 01:39am PT
But, but... Your Honor, I plead extenuating circumstances on the second. See, Your Honor, I was planning to be a good belayer, but he made me smoke that third pipe-load, and it was him that opened second bottle of wine the night before. And Hell, I did tell him that we oughta rethink the whole wall in light of my inability to stay awake, what with hip belays being less reliable than gri-gri belays and all, in the event of narcolepsy, you know.

Motion denied. Standard operating procedure among climbers. Son, I'm afraid this won't get you out of your sacred belay duty clause in your contract....
Andrew Barnes

Ice climber
Albany, NY
Oct 18, 2012 - 02:08am PT
Tell a complete stranger what to do and what not to do.

Several years ago at the Gunks, some uptight female I don't know starts telling me "That's not a trail, you cannot walk there". Lots of crap like
this takes place at the Gunks on weekends, obnoxious noobs giving
unsolicited beta, monopolizing climbs, dropping stuff on people below, etc. etc.

Starting a lead and farting just at the start when the leader's ass is just above the belayer's nose. Perhaps it's a way of shedding weight
at the start of the lead!
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Oct 18, 2012 - 04:14am PT
Lucky Pink, Leggs, and Gal,

Boys will be boys.

Men should not act like boys.

It is bad form to pull rank sh#t while any women are present, unless they have no objection to this sort of behavior, and it's good form to find that out before you start lighting blue flames, which, BTW, is extremely bad form.
Do not smoke in dried-out areas! I smoke all the time except then or when it's banned indoors.

How many rude behaviorists does it take to f*#kup your day at the crags?

Only one.

Don't be that guy.

Or girl; I'm just sayin', you women, in turn, might make sure you are wearing some panties if you wear cut-offs, etc., and plan to do leading.

Norwegian

Trad climber
Placerville, California
Oct 18, 2012 - 10:59am PT
twice i lost my virginity
mid pitch, on pigs in zen.

she was on rappel,
i on silent lead,
my metal rope mate
was all jealous
and kept forcing her
way within my liason.

it wasn't great form;
you ever try to argue
with newton on his action-reaction clause?
that dude's like a physics warrior lawyer.
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