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Gary
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Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Jul 21, 2010 - 07:20pm PT
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I wonder what it would be like under an independent conservative?
F*#ked.
"Outsourcing is rightsourcing." -- Carly Fiorina
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Jul 21, 2010 - 08:41pm PT
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maybe because NO one can even think of ONE THING, that the Republicans have done that was Good
You're an embarrassment to liberals, Dr.F, but I don't expect people here to point that out.
Remember when Bush created that huge Marine Preserve near the Marianna Islands??? Was that good?
And that's just recent history...
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Gary
climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Jul 22, 2010 - 12:45am PT
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maybe because NO one can even think of ONE THING, that the Republicans have done that was Good
Good? Good for who? The Republicans strengthened the hand of the Iranian mullahs by giving them a boogeyman to scare their people with, while at the same time eliminating one of their old enemies, Iraq, and turning them into an ally.
President George W. Bush has secured the endorsement of a surprising ally in his bid for re-election. Bush once branded the country part of an “axis of evil” threatening global security, but Iran’s mullahs last week expressed the wish that he be given four more years in the White House.
Hasan Rowhani, head of Iran’s Supreme National Security Council, seemed confident Bush would not bow to pressure from members of his administration for military action against Iran’s nuclear facilities. “We haven’t seen anything good from Democrats,” he told state-run television. “We do not desire to see Democrats take over.” Rowhani reminded television viewers of the sanctions imposed when Bill Clinton was president and added: “We should not forget that during Bush’s era — despite his hardline and baseless rhetoric — he didn’t take, in practical terms, any dangerous action against Iran.”
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edejom
Boulder climber
Butte, America
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Jul 22, 2010 - 12:52am PT
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"John McCain flew the A-4E Skyhawk."--Eubank
Which kind did he fly poorly--as in crash?
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Daniel Eubank
Sport climber
Woodbridge, VA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 22, 2010 - 07:05am PT
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The primary mission of the A-4E during Vietnam was Close Air Support (CAS) and Deep Air Support (DAS). John McCain was shot down during a DAS mission. The A-4 can carry AIM-9 Sidewinders on the #1 and #4 pylons (outboard pylons) and is very effective / maneuverable for Air Combat Maneuvering (ACM). This photo shows an A-4E in 1967 over Vietnam armed with an AIM-9 Sidewinder, an Infrared Air to Air Missile (Only purpose for that weapons load is fighter).
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Douglas Rhiner
Mountain climber
Tahoe City/Talmont , CA
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Jul 22, 2010 - 10:16am PT
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Both McCain and the A-4 are out-of-date.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jul 22, 2010 - 10:48am PT
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Old School A-4?
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Gary
climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Jul 22, 2010 - 11:55am PT
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So, coz, what you write has a lot of truth.
What I can't figure out is why the Republicans don't love him? Like Bill Clinton, he's a far better Republican than any of their presidents have been.
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Gary
climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Jul 22, 2010 - 12:05pm PT
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I think the problem is, really.... that there is not a big difference in the parties, it's just who's in power giving money and influence to the people that put them there.
Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner! Give that man a ceegar!
We have a plutocracy that starting back in the '70s began turning into a kleptocracy. The question is how do we get our country back.
And it ain't those stooges in the Tea Party.
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apogee
climber
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Jul 22, 2010 - 12:42pm PT
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"I think the problem is, really.... that there is not a big difference in the parties..."
Yes and no. True, both parties are steered by gi-normous special interests that are far removed from the voice and intent of citizens.
However, there is a clear difference in the issues each party chooses for their agenda. You can bet yer arse that if McLame had won, issues like healthcare reform, finance reform, and a host of others would never get any attention at all. Instead, we would have bombed Iran and be in the midst of WW III, and since McFlip-Flop would be dead by now, we'd have Sarah Palin as our 'fearless leader'.
Given the alternative, I'd say we're doing ok.
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Daniel Eubank
Sport climber
Woodbridge, VA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 22, 2010 - 12:54pm PT
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Barrack Hussain Obama's First Year of 'Accomplishments':
1. Offended the Queen of England.
2. Bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia.
3. Praised the Marxist Daniel Ortega.
4. Kissed Socialist Hugo Chavez on the cheek.
5. Endorsed the Socialist Evo Morales of Bolivia .
6. Sided with Hugo Chavez and Communist Fidel Castro against Honduras
7. Announced we would meet with Iranians with no pre-conditions while
they're building their nuclear weapons.
8. Gave away billions to AIG also without pre-conditions. It is noteworthy that AIG manages the retirement accounts for the Legislative Branch.
9. Expanded the bailouts.
10. Insulted everyone who has ever loved a Special Olympian.
11. Doubled our national debt.
12. Announced the termination of our new missile defense system the
day after North Korea launched an ICBM.
13. Released information on U.S. intelligence gathering despite
urgings of his own CIA director and the prior four CIA directors.
14. Accepted without comment that five of his cabinet members cheated
on their taxes and two other nominees withdrew after they couldn't
take the heat.
15. Appointed a Homeland Security Chief who identified military
veterans and abortion opponents as "dangers to the nation".
16. Ordered that the word "terrorism" no longer be used and instead
refers to such acts as "man made disasters".
17. Circled the globe to publicly apologize for America 's world leadership.
18. Told the Mexican president that the violence in their country was
because of us.
19. Politicized the census by moving it into the White House from the
Department of Commerce.
20. Appointed as Attorney General the man who orchestrated the forced
removal and expulsion to Cuba of a 9-year-old whose mother died
trying to bring him to freedom in the United States.
21. Salutes as heroes three Navy SEALS who took down three terrorists
who threatened one American life and the next day announces members of the Bush administration may stand trial for "torturing" three 9/11
terrorists by pouring water up their noses.
22. Low altitude photo shoot of Air Force One over New York City that
frightened thousands of New Yorkers.
23. Sent his National Defense Adviser to Europe to assure them that
the US will no longer treat Israel in a special manner and they might be on their own with the Muslims.
24. Praised Jimmy Carter's trip to Gaza where he sided with terrorist
Hamas against Israel .
25. Nationalized General Motors and Chrysler while turning shareholder
control over to the unions and freezing out retired investors who
owned their bonds. Committed unlimited taxpayer billions in the
process.
26. Passed a huge energy tax in the House that will make American
industry even less competitive while costing homeowners thousands per
year.
27. Passed nationalized health care "reform" that will create the equivalent of Medicare for all U.S. Citizens, will cut the pay of physicians,
28. Increased taxes yet another $1 trillion, and put everyone on rationed care with government bureaucrats deciding who gets care and who doesn't.
29. Bloomberg: Daschle says, "Health care reform will not be pain free.
Seniors should be more accepting of the conditions that come with age
instead of treating them," while former Colorado Governor Dick Lamm
says seniors have "a duty to die."
If this does not sufficiently raise your ire, just remember that the
President, Senators and Congressmen have their own special gold plated
health care plan which is guaranteed the remainder of their lives after serving only one year in office and they are not subject to this new 'Health Care Reform' law as passed.
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apogee
climber
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Jul 22, 2010 - 12:57pm PT
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"4. Kissed Socialist Hugo Chavez on the cheek."
At least he didn't kiss a Saudi Prince on the mouth:
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apogee
climber
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Jul 22, 2010 - 01:01pm PT
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Hey, Eubank-
Name one tangible, clear example of something that has directly & negatively impacted your life that was strictly and completely due to an Obama-created policy.
Just one.
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apogee
climber
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Jul 22, 2010 - 01:13pm PT
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Weak examples, coz, and a great stretch of truth. Try again.
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Daniel Eubank
Sport climber
Woodbridge, VA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 22, 2010 - 01:18pm PT
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'directly & negatively impacted'
* There is a tax Tsunami on the Horizon *
My personal income taxes will go up.
Come next year I will be paying income tax on my company provided health care insurance benefit, whether I use them or not. This is designed to pay for ObamaCare.
The lowest bracket for the personal income tax, moves up 50% — to 15% from 10%. The next lowest bracket — 25% — will rise to 28%, and the old 28% bracket will be 31%. At the higher end, the 33% bracket is pushed to 36% and the 35% bracket becomes 39.6%.
The marriage penalty also makes a comeback, and the capital gains tax will jump 33% — to 20% from 15%. The tax on dividends will go all the way from 15% to 39.6% — a 164% increase.
You will no longer be able to use health savings account, flexible spending account, or health reimbursement pretax dollars to purchase nonprescription, over-the-counter medicines.
Through the end of this year, the federal estate tax rate is zero — thanks to the package of broad-based tax cuts that President Bush pushed through to get the economy going earlier in the decade. But as of midnight Dec. 31, the death tax returns — at a rate of 55% on estates of $1 million or more. The effect this will have on hospital life-support systems is already a matter of conjecture.
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apogee
climber
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Jul 22, 2010 - 01:19pm PT
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coz, you just like to fight and argue for the sake of arguing, and then watch the fireworks.
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apogee
climber
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Jul 22, 2010 - 01:21pm PT
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"My personal income taxes will go up. "
Yeah, I know, Eubank, that is the penultimate fear that has permeated your brain by the FauxNews GOP media poodles, but I am asking for an example of something that has already come to pass, and was entirely due to Obama.
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apogee
climber
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Jul 22, 2010 - 01:33pm PT
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He cut funding to special ops, I have no contracts to train them.
Defense spending hasn't changed in the last few years- if anything, it has increased with a further commitment to Afghanistan. And waitaminit...aren't you the one who said that the guiding industry was working way below it's potential because it wasn't going after the right market? I guess we should be targeting gov't contracts and charging them extravagant fees to teach them how to do Australian rappels and shoot at the same time? 'No contracts to train them'? Sounds like suckling from the governmental teat to me.
He raise taxes, yes on me.
Prove it, please.
He put a moratorium on drilling sending the stock market tumbling.
So he shouldn't have done that? Better to just keep doing the same thing, without trying to figure out what went wrong and fix it? And you think that this action is the sole reason the stock market tumbled (again)? That's the kind of rationale that FauxNews republagumbys follow.
He squeezed the rich people who make movies in the US, so they have to produce over-seas.
Uh...ok, right. There's a latin phrase that describes this kind of disconnected logic...something about non-sequiter...
Net, cost of Obama to me, about 70-100 grand.
Yeah. Sure it is. If McLame had been POTUS, you'd be up by 70-100 g's, then, right?
I'll bet an extra-hoppy IPA you voted for Obama, too.
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Daniel Eubank
Sport climber
Woodbridge, VA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 22, 2010 - 01:37pm PT
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Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
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apogee
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Jul 22, 2010 - 01:40pm PT
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Eubank, still waiting for a clear answer.
One example of something that bad has happened to you since 1/20/09 that is completely and entirely due to Obama. Not projections, not possibilities, not theories....clear, demonstrable examples.
Just one.
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