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reddirt
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I still don't get it. I recently spent three weeks on the road. I take H2O with me as I don't know what kind of H2O quality is available where I go.
My fav roadtrip set-up is actually a Camelbak w/ an on/off thingy at the end.... no fussing w/ lids, straws, no opportunity for spills. And I refill at gas stations that have fountain soda.... there's usually a "water" button... and THAT water is almost certain to be highly filtered as that's the same water that coke/pepsi uses to mix their products.
Turning down that $20k... what a respectable decision!
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Good job Ken.
Wow, turning down 20K must make you feel like a real champ.
Tough, but right.
Awesome!
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okie
Trad climber
San Leandro, Ca
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Heard there's a spot out in the Pacific Ocean that's a vortex of floating garbage created by the currents. Lots of the plastic ends up there. Anyone else heard of this? Guido?
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reddirt
climber
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it's called the Eastern Garbage Patch or Great Pacific Garbage Patch
ScienceMagazine — March 13, 2010 — Plastics In Our Oceans: The 'Plastiki' Expedition. David de Rothschild and his boat, the 'Plastiki', will set sail across the Pacific soon. Find out how a boat made entirely of plastic hopes to rid the oceans of the stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpbipTF-ytk
ABCNews — February 03, 2010 — This boat made of recycled material hopes to raise awareness of waste. For more, click here: http://abcnews.go.com/WN/boat-made-re... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ug7CpVkBuU
Wow, a 60 ft Catamaran made entirely of reused/cycled plastique, incl the sail/jib, mast & "glue"
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rick d
climber
ol pueblo, az
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thumbs up Ken!
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the kid
Trad climber
fayetteville, wv
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nice work!
i would hit up BD as they are flush with CASH now..
when is the facelift?
i miss Yosemite and need to get back to my roots..
kurt
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ncrockclimber
climber
NC
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So many people or organizations would have taken the $20K and then found a way to justify the decision. In the end, it would have been a deal with the devil and the wrong thing to do. It is great to see someone unapologetically make the "right" decision and then commit to finding the funds somewhere else. Props to you, Ken! I have never met you but think that you are a class act!
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tinker b
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the commonwealth
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nice job ken. i fully support you.
i have picked up loads of plastic bottles during the facelift and on other wanderings in the park. last year and three years ago i went below the cables on half dome to pick up trash. on the south side everything seemed to be ligitamite accidental drops. i found a good mix of nalgenes and disposable waterbottles (and one clean canteen). on the north side it seemed like the disposables where a bit more frequent, and the vast majority of them where empty (appearing as if they had been chucked, instead of dropped.)
when something has value, people take better care of it. they will hold onto it, go back up the trail if they forgot it at a break ect. something that is going to be thrown away at the end of the day has no value, and is easily left behind when the water is gone.
my sister bans disposable water bottles in her 6th grade class room and has discussions with them about why. like on the trail, too many where getting left behind at the end of class.
lynne, if you live in a place with bad water, have you thought of gettting those big 5 gallon reussable water bottles, and use that to fill up your smaller clean canteen ect.? or 3 gallon if the 5 is too big. i agree that there are places where you should not drink the water from the tap, but there also ways to minimize your impact, and keep the amount of plastics be produced to a minimum.
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hagerty
Social climber
A Sandy Area South of a Salty Lake
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Why is bottled water bad? In addition to that video, there's this article:
http://www.wisegeek.com/is-bottled-water-bad-for-the-environment.htm
And from http://www.thegoodhuman.com/2008/12/29/10-reasons-to-stop-drinking-bottled-water/
* American tap water is among the safest in the world.
* As much as 40% of the bottled water sold in the U.S. is just filtered tap water anyway. Be sure to check the label and look for “from a municipal source” or “community water system”, which just means it is tap water.
* By drinking tap water, you can avoid the fertilizer, pharmaceuticals, disinfectants, and other chemicals that studies have found in bottled water.
* Tap water costs about $0.002 per gallon compared to the $0.89 to $8.26 per gallon charge for bottled water. If the water we use at home cost what even cheap bottled water costs, our monthly water bills would run $9,000.
* 88% of empty plastic water bottles in the United States are not recycled. The Container Recycling Institute says that plastic water bottles are disposed of (not recycled) at the rate of 30 million a day.
* Plastic bottles can leach chemicals into the water if left in the sun, heated up, or reused several times.
* Production of the plastic (PET or polyethylene) bottles to meet our demand for bottled water takes the equivalent of about 17.6 million barrels of oil (not including transportation costs). That equals the amount of oil required to fuel more than one million vehicles in the U.S. each year. Around the world, bottling water uses about 2.7 million tons of plastic…each year.
* Bottled water companies mislead communities into giving away their public water in exchange for dangerous jobs.
* It can take nearly 7 times the amount of water in the bottle to actually make the bottle itself.
* On a weekly basis, 37,800 18-wheelers are driving around the country delivering water.
* The EPA sets much more stringent quality standards for tap water than the FDA does for the bottled stuff.
* One out of 6 people in the world does not have safe drinking water, and about 3,000 children a day die from diseases caught from bad water…that we know of. This while Americans spend about $16 billion a year on bottled water.
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reddirt
climber
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Montana water is HEINOUS!
How is that possible unless you live around Libby? Wow, news to me...
we have an Omnifilter OT32 system "to remove lead, Giardia and Cryptosporidium cysts, and volatile organic compounds (VOCs), including Atrazine (an herbicide) and Lindane (a pesticide)..."
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Roxy
Trad climber
CA Central Coast
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cheers for sending the right message by doing the right thing!
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Eric Rice
Trad climber
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You did the right thing Ken. Way to do what is right.
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Denise Umstot
climber
Princess of the El Cap Bridge!
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Excellent video Paul! Lynnie watch the video and then let us know if you still do not understand :)
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Plastic bad. I support your decision. although there doesn't seem to be many bottles at facelift, I've picked up as many as 50 plastic water bottles in a single trip down Malibu Creek.
There is literally a sea of plastic the size of a continent floating out in the middle of the Pacific:
Article:
http://www.sdnn.com/sandiego/2009-04-16/environment/sailing-a-sea-of-plastic
Edited quote: "Moore was the first to discover the massive accumulation of trash gyrating in the North Pacific in 1997. Then, he approximated the garbage-dense region was twice the size of Texas. Moore has since elevated his estimate to an area one and a half times the landmass of the United States.
Large amounts of rubbish from the western United States and Asia – things like bath toys and shopping bags, industrial waste and water bottles – travel down storm drains, rivers, creeks and bays to the ultimate downstream destination: the ocean, which carries floatables inevitably into the Gyre. There could be as much as 100 million tons of flotsam."
Lynne: I understand it's hard to avoid when you are traveling, but have you looked into getting a home-water filter? Way cheaper. Erik and I have a "water store" nearby that sells the cleanest best-tasting water I've ever had for $1.25 for 5 gallons. Totally worth a drive every few weeks and we just bring a big jug with us camping so we don't have to buy plastic.
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