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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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May 11, 2010 - 12:08pm PT
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a couple of Tangential players, lurking at the Peralta trailhead
Wendy White & Dick Cilley
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Dickbob
climber
Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - May 11, 2010 - 01:40pm PT
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steelmnkey
Thanks for the compliment. Its easy to take good photos in Zonerland. Its on top of the world and vibrant up there.
Every one has seen this one.
Where are the location of Wind Walker and Rock Rats? Smeltser Canyon? Haven't had the pleasure.
Wendy and Dick = Good people.
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steelmnkey
climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
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May 11, 2010 - 01:49pm PT
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DB - both routes are on the Fortress. Windwalker (11a) west right side, Rock Rats (10b) east sort of central left. There's another one off to the right on the east called Sticky Bush (10d/11a) that is also pretty good. All of them are Brad M. routes. Rock Rats I'd give three stars, others probably only two (out of three).
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Dickbob
climber
Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - May 11, 2010 - 01:54pm PT
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SM
Thaaats right. Now I can place them. Brad's the man. Thanks!
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treeman
climber
mule city
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May 11, 2010 - 02:03pm PT
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Brad M = Brad Mattingly?
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Dickbob
climber
Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - May 11, 2010 - 02:08pm PT
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Yep. The Man. Hear about his little bike ride last year? Banff to Mexico. No pavement...Unsupported?
Zonerland Reunion
Group photo from that day.
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treeman
climber
mule city
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May 11, 2010 - 04:18pm PT
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i see a drew m., a b-rad, maybe a shoup dog, who else was there?
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steelmnkey
climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
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May 11, 2010 - 04:35pm PT
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rick d and his son in the right center.
Mike C left of rick d
Manny in the lower left... Ryan F. on the far right?
Assume red haired dude is the Red Headed Rock Pecker?
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rick d
climber
ol pueblo, az
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May 11, 2010 - 04:49pm PT
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manny
(andy) m, gordon o, mike c, rick d, iain d, MAD (dannerbeck), ryan f.
brad m, matt THE redheadedrockpecker, (1,2) luke
so richard robert or doug s took the photo as both are mia
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rick d
climber
ol pueblo, az
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May 11, 2010 - 05:34pm PT
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oh,
and f*#k you scotty!
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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May 11, 2010 - 05:52pm PT
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Looks like a fun area!
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steelmnkey
climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
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May 11, 2010 - 07:26pm PT
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Here's a bit of my own personal history...
Working copies of Zonerland info for the last (almost) 20 years, starting in 1991. The one in the upper left side was the first one that I put together in 1991 from whatever source I could dig up at the time. Most of it was thanks to Dickbob for taking on the chore of documenting the routes at the time. Back then, I remember being acosted at the Peralta trailhead by the rangers when they saw our ropes dangling on packs.
"Are you going climbing?"
"Yes?"
"You know there's no bolting here!"
"We're not planning on bolting. We don't even have bolting gear."
"Okay, as long as you know there's no bolting here!"
(yeah dude, we get the point, Jeezuz)
I didn't know anyone who actually climbed out there at the time, and except for a couple German dudes we saw down in the main Zonerland area working on Don't Worry Be Happy, we didn't really run into anyone either. But I had that collection of info (yellow cover) I'd assembled, and I was pretty good with vague info by then. We ended up wandering up to the Ridgeline, where I put two and two together and figured out we were at Whirlwind Tower (pic of the route Whirlwind posted above). I was walking around elated at putting some names and grades to routes when I went between a couple of towers (Munchkin's Bane) and there's a ranger about 25m to the northwest, hunched down on a rock shelf. Just sitting there. WTF? I said hi, and he said hello like it was just some casual meeting on a trail somewhere and I didn't know why he'd stalked us from the parking lot.
"What's that?", he says asking about my little book.
"Oh, it's just some climbing information for this area."
"There's a book?"
"No, it's just something I put together."
"Are you publishing a guidbeook?"
"No, it's just something I put togehter for myself."
"Did you see where those German guys went?" he asks all casual like.
"Yeah, they went that-a-way!" I said, pointing him 180 degrees in the wrong direction.
Tool.
I really hit my stride thanks to Brad M., who went with me a couple of times out there and solved a ton of outstanding route mysteries. Brad is one of the good guys. Dickbob has been a lot of help as well and really the legwork behind much of the original area documentation. We'll have to stop pitter-pattering around one of these days and sit down for a big ol' beer face to face. :-)
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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May 11, 2010 - 09:21pm PT
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Greg, get the Fish or Cilley to tell the 'Parking Monitor ' story sometime, you'll identify!. Gawd what a pack of self-important dweebs!
It's cool seeing all these shots, I have a stack of slides to scan...
I get to see Dru, Greg and Manny every so often, and have even talked with Raypole on the phone in the last year. It would be a kick to see the rest of you sometime, i can hear your voices. Miss you all, but especially Scotty, because I can't, see him any more.
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Dickbob
climber
Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - May 11, 2010 - 09:28pm PT
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Holy bajesus!! I had no idea you had five bound differant copies of the area! Those damn things are valuable. When can I get my hands on the real McCoy? Your right about the beers. I'm parched.
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teamwhipper
climber
Bay Area, CA
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May 12, 2010 - 02:36pm PT
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Wow, this thread sure brings back good memories. It was Ryan and Gordon who must have told us about Zonerland, and I think given us an initial tour. My recollection is I met Gordon at Hueco, maybe on Stardust. Hope those 2 are doing well; they were a lot of fun. Ryan must have been very young at the time--- I thought he had huge climbing potential. Hope they're both still climbing. Dickbob, I can't remember us meeting, but since you've got a pic of Brian Bailey out there, I think we must have. I did a multi-month road trip with Brian and friends somewhere in the late 80's/early 90's, and I'm now dimly remembering that one of the Zonerland trips was on that longer trip. I had a request from the widow of a now dead partner for pictures of him climbing, so only last month I went through hundreds of slides, and actually found some of Zonerland with him. I'm not savvy enough to post them, but it was fun to see them, and then to see all the great pictures in this thread.
Jaybro, I'm sure I'll spend some time at Donner this summer, although probably much more time on Sonora Pass. Given the current snow level, it looks like maybe a late start to higher elevation rock this year though. And Dickbob, things are great. I'm living in California, and still climbing most weekends. Cheers!
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treeman
climber
mule city
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May 14, 2010 - 11:11am PT
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Bumping this back to the front page cuz AZ rock climbing trumps its politics anyday.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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May 14, 2010 - 11:35am PT
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I've been climbing a lot on Sonora pass the last few years, i'll look for you there.
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drljefe
climber
Old Pueblo, AZ
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May 14, 2010 - 01:40pm PT
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BUMP
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Dickbob
climber
Colorado
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 23, 2010 - 07:45pm PT
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Any one been out climbing here in Zonerland. Its the season. Its been months. Pictures please!
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Gal
Trad climber
a semi lucid consciousness
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Dec 23, 2010 - 08:48pm PT
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Some of my friends went recently (I've been out there a couple of times)-I'm going to get out there for some days this January... If anyone is interested in going, send me a message-I have a flexible schedule.
Cool pics and great thread, by the way!
-Catherine
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