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esq
Novice climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 21, 2002 - 04:27pm PT
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Yep Reality, this is a Yosemite site, so why don't you go back to your SuperMissionCliffs site where you belong. I hear there's a great thread going on there about red route #4.
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reality
Novice climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 21, 2002 - 04:40pm PT
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oooh oooh, wow such an original insult, stop it, it hurts.
loser f*#king lawyer
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Novice climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 21, 2002 - 04:56pm PT
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Reality, are you and Donny one in the same?..or possibly just related? The grammer, "prose" and punctuation (or lack thereof) in that response appear all to familiar.
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donny
Novice climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 21, 2002 - 04:58pm PT
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f*#k you you stupid f*#king sh#t. reality is a dick loser and he dusn't climb no 5.13
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MOAC Man
Novice climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 21, 2002 - 05:01pm PT
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Sorry to hear people consider it a Yosemite specific site.
Those people may want to broaden their minds and go climb in other places. You will be surprised what can be learnt. Mind you there are obviously a number of very narrow minded people out there who may not be able to cope with climbing else where.
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Donny
Novice climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 21, 2002 - 05:06pm PT
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Dude so what.just cause you can slackline dosnt make you a superhero. who cares about slacking
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?
Novice climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 21, 2002 - 05:08pm PT
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hey Cmac-
maybe you'd better put the free route supertopo global blitz on the back burner and go play vertical track star for awhile, before ammon and these other fellas have ALL the records on yer favorite little granite backyard boulder!
come to think of it, lets take a ST user poll:
who cares if marginal free routes (like superslab) are in the ST guidebook?
and who wants to see Cmac go get hizself some new records?
i personally vow that i will pay to download a new packet of topos (whether i want them or not) for every new speed ascent record you get on The Captain in 2003.
who's with me????????????
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Max
Novice climber
yosemite
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Nov 21, 2002 - 05:30pm PT
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Well, disregarding pretty much all posts except the first...
Congrats, dude! We were the ones in the meadow kickin' it, though we thought Catra was juggin' pretty fast for a first wall!! Anyhow, killer send. El Cap sure was amazing in that full moon, gotta be one of the best bivies (close to tha road) in the park, and even better when you get to watch a speed record go up in front of your eyes.... Yeah, don't get much better.
small wall max
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MOAC Man
Novice climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 21, 2002 - 05:44pm PT
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Chris M.
Don't you dare bugger off on some speed quest until the new topos are done, finished and published! I want to be well armed on my visit in June!
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DS
Novice climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 21, 2002 - 05:48pm PT
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I think Chief SuperTaco has his priorities in order. I think most of us would rather actually climb our moderate weenie routes than just read about the exploits of others. Keep the aiders in the closet for now. ;)
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Minerals
Novice climber
STF vacation
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Nov 21, 2002 - 09:48pm PT
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Yo Ammon. What up bro? Excellent work! Way to go! Forget the slander; don't sweat it. We know you are sick and way rad!!! What's next?
Congradulations on your new hook-up!
Eminem,
I agree. A true ascent must use the original 1st and 5th pitch to be proper. Otherwise, it is only a Zodiac variation ascent. (just my opinion) Oh, and it's 'y' not 'i'...
So Ammon, does this mean you have to go back up there... maybe in the daylight? Keep posting; this forum could use a little help.
Cheers, you sicko.
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Terry
Novice climber
Spokane
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 21, 2002 - 11:01pm PT
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Ammon, way to go and thanks for posting.
All you Whiners (Brent)just need to chill out. Why do you feel the need to bash someone. Give me a break. Why don't you just tell him "Way to go" and if you think you can do better then go out and do it. If you don't want to tell people about it fine. But quit baggin on someone cuz they decided to post it.
I could care less if he is beating his own drum although I doubt he is. The only experience I've had with him was when he left his bivy, rapped over and lowered down his fleece jacket to my partner. It was getting cold and all our warm stuff was a pitch down in the haul bag as we topped out on El Cap ledge. I'd never met the guy before, he was just being cool - In my book stuff like that say a whole lot more about a person than whether or not he posted about his accomplishment.
If you've forgoten about the incident Ammon maybe you'll remember that we left a little present for ya in the pocket when we sent it back up - hope that kept YOU warm and thanks again.
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Chris McNamara
SuperTopo staff member
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Nov 22, 2002 - 12:03am PT
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to answer ?'s question, I spent my first 6 years in the valley climbing only big walls so now i am catching up on some of the free climbs. however, as soon as get rid of those remaining 1500 big wall guidebooks in my garage and can make the second edition, i'll be out looking for new routes to climb in speedy style. on the top of the list now is Watkins, Arrow Direct, Electric Lady Land, Horse Chute Southern Man, Jesus Built..., Direct on Half Dome. I already have new topos for South Central, Never Never Land, Liberty Cap, Aquarian, Magin Mushroom, West Buttress, Gold Wall, Tis-sa-ack, and Roulette. Any others i should include?
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Satan
Novice climber
Hell
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 22, 2002 - 12:07am PT
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"All you Whiners (Brent)just need to chill out. Why do you feel the need to bash someone."
Really now, this forum and many of its members exist to bash others. I gave you all a good bashing and then left because, quite frankly you dickheads do a fine job bashing everyone that comes here and each other. To ask that question is ludicrous!
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JingusChoss
Novice climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 22, 2002 - 12:33am PT
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All you need to do is congratulate Ammon on his ascent and his new marriage.
Ain't a thing you folks with dust-bunnies for balls can teach him about climbing style.
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brent,
That goes for you to.
Why don't you tell us, in a self-deprecating way of course, about how you lived up to your "alpine ideal" when you got overwhelmed and snail-eyed in Baffin. Make sure you don't self-aggrandize as you describe how you over-bolted and whimpered up your leads on your failed attempt. Then you can tell us, with all due modesty, how you have always been the weakest link in every climbing team you've been a part of.
Is that schmack enough for you?
People who live in glass houses....
...expose themselves.
JC
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More Air
Novice climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 22, 2002 - 01:26am PT
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Chris Mac. It would be cool to see: Heart Route, Sunkist on El Cap, North face of E. Quarter Dome, South Face of Half Dome. Keep up the good Work!
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Ammon
Advanced climber
Yosemite
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 22, 2002 - 02:00am PT
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I'm back!! (NOT in a thick Austrian accent)
I am NOT looking for praise. I was so discusted with this whole thread..... I jumped the gun and said I wouldn't post again.
Ok, I let some of you guys get under my skin earlier today. I'm sure that was your intention. I'm not into slander and all the negativity that some of you thrive on. I just wanted you guys to here a first hand account of a record ascent.... instead of reading it weeks after the fact in some climbing mag. I guess I shouldn't be so cut and dry with my posts.
BTW... Nick, my partner went back up the route the very next day, solo. Yes, he got the record. Russ Mitrovitch had the previous record at 12:00 flat. Nick did it in 11:18. He went down the East Ledges and started the Tangerine Trip, trying to solo back to back El Cap routes (he already has the solo record (15:??)) He made it to the fourth pitch and whipped..... HUUUUUGEE!!. He lost his psyche and bailed. I'm sure he was very tired as well.
Nick!! You da MAN. Props to ya!!! Congrats!!
Terry!!! Wazzz UP, bro? Of course I remember you. You guys were VERY cool..... OHHhhh, and the gift that I found in my pocket.. :) OOhhh Yeeahh!!!
CMac. Brutha, I am NOT rubbing this in your face. We've talked about speed climbing together for a few year now. You know me better than most of these clowns. Let's rope up..... SOON!!
crystalpsyco and copperhead...... Ahhhhrrgghhh matey's. It's nice to see a couple of pirates sticking up for me. See you out on the steeeeep and unclimbed.
Cheers, Ammon
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Lincoln
Novice climber
stuck at the black tower
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Nov 22, 2002 - 02:19am PT
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Chris, if you include quarter dome in the new book make sure you mark the crux as being the thousand feet of grade VII bush wacking just below the start of the route...
Ammon, rock on, congrats yet again (if you're still following this mess of a thread). I gotta say though, I was pretty bummed to run into Nick today and hear the news... you beat me to it. I was supposed to be up there with Nick tomorrow!!! Damn :) Nice going bro.
An for everyone else, it should be mentioned that Nick popped back up to the base the next morning and stole the solo speed record for the route. No joke. I can't remember the time, ten something, but that's twice up Zodiac in 24 hours (once solo)... He was headed up the Trip later that day to snag two solo routes in 24 hours but bailed after a wild fall low on the route.
All I have to say to that is... ummm... well... I...
Sh#t,
Climb safe, climb hard, and man, stop and enjoy the view every now and again :)
Cheers,
-Link
PS: Since this information has been provided by an objective third source (who can only brag about being "that other Nick climbs with sometimes"), I hope everyone reacts with the appropriate amazed stare instead of diving back into the insult battle.
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Lincoln
Novice climber
right behind Ammon
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Nov 22, 2002 - 02:21am PT
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wow... Ammon, you beat my post by like thirty seconds!
Speed posting... it should be a new sport.
-Link
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Lambone
Novice climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 22, 2002 - 02:23am PT
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haha...we knew you were still lurkin Ammon, any sprayer who proclaims to leave and never come back is allways right around the corner. Don't worry, we'll take you back...the gapers around these parts ain't too picky.
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