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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Mar 24, 2010 - 08:58pm PT
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Another vote for what Kris said. I'd been on rec.climbing under my own name for years, and only took the anonymous avatar here when I first joined because I thought that was what was expected. I'd rather be under my own name, but enough of you know me, and my name has been in enough posts that it's not worth changing now.
As to the argument that if you use your real name you won't get a job... well, that seems pretty lame. Sounds more like an excuse from people who want to post a lot of nasty and aggressive sh#t and not be held responsible for what they say. Cowardly is the word that comes to mind.
Happie's view that allowing her real name to show would open her up to personal hurt is a different thing. I don't know what to say about that. Maybe for her, and a few others, it's valid. Stalkers exist. Psychos exist.
And no doubt that there are a few special cases where having one's name appear as a poster on an internet forum could cause some other problem, but my guess is that most people's fear of this is exaggerated. Well, except for Dingus of course. He'd be dead within 24 hours of his name being known.
But to me there seems to be a pretty high correlation between those who want to be nasty without taking responsibility for what they say, and those who won't come out from behind their alias.
David Harris.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Mar 24, 2010 - 09:02pm PT
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Munge here. I climb stuff. Ping me if you're normalish. I tend not to use my full name because I'm wanted in 16 states for felony rap bolting. LOL!! Oh, and search results are forever, just like your posts here!
I'm not a secret, unless of course the ladies find the mystery sexy. hahaha
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 24, 2010 - 09:13pm PT
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Wow. I Googled Ksolem and someone who blogs on Oprah.com came up.
Most definitely knott me!
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Mar 24, 2010 - 09:19pm PT
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As to the argument that if you use your real name you won't get a job... well, that seems pretty lame. Sounds more like an excuse from people who want to post a lot of nasty and aggressive sh#t and not be held responsible for what they say. Cowardly is the word that comes to mind.
Sounds like your employer has low expectations. I too like ontheedge...am an attorney who deals with lots of litigation and you know us lawyers will try everything.
Plus I don't see you using your name.
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Skeptimistic
Mountain climber
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Mar 24, 2010 - 09:26pm PT
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"...every word you ever said was recorded for all time and then placed in a place where every knothead in the world can access them?"
Say it - Forget it/Write it - Regret it...
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Mar 24, 2010 - 09:30pm PT
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Plus I don't see you using your name.
Uhh... I signed my post with it.
And as to your comment about my employer having low expectations, well that's a perfect illustration of my point that people who hide behind an alias feel free to post nasty sh#t without having to take responsibility for it.
Personally, I don't have any problem with a current or prospective employer googling me on the internet, because what I've posted over the years doesn't paint me in a bad light. Maybe it's different for you...
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Mar 24, 2010 - 09:30pm PT
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I would never work for an employer who searched social networks for information about me. Most of us are climbers on this forum- show some balls or the equivalent thereof.
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tomtom
Social climber
Seattle, Wa
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Mar 24, 2010 - 09:32pm PT
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Real campfires are environmental disasters.
Just say no.
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Mar 24, 2010 - 09:33pm PT
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This is effectively my real name: it's what my family calls me, I get mail, cash checks, and am known to clients and employees by it. Hell, it even shows up in the AAJ that way, though it comes off as an avatar name. It seems like its easiest to just be me and only say things I'd say normally. That can still get you in trouble, I tend towards sarcasm, which can be difficult to do on the intertubes. Also, if you google my name, you just get a lot of designer websites. That will only get worse in a few years when I change my name to Antique White. Recently, I've been briefly identified in the real world as "Bump". Momma named me Doug, I'll answer to that one also; it doesn't make either of me schizophrenic, and I've always been White, I even just checked that box on my census form.
I'm sympathetic to those with issues about being public, while people think of this as a campfire, it's far more durable and public than many people are aware. I'm self employed, have been for most of my adult life; that gives me a certain amount of leeway. Lots of folks are only quasi anonymous, they are real people behind an alias that is linked to the real them, even if somewhat obscurely: they're known in ways that matter and do involve some accountability. That's pretty honorable too. The truly anonymous who just fling poo? Who cares what they think anyway? Its best to have a thick skin if you're going to wallow on the internet or climb wide cracks.
I'd never be mean to Ksolem anyway, not only is he an honorable poster, I'm friends with his sister.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Mar 24, 2010 - 09:36pm PT
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I would never work for a company who searched a social forum for information about me. We are climbers, show some balls or the equivalent thereof.
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Mar 24, 2010 - 09:38pm PT
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Hey, someone in Colorado should slap Donini on the back, he's starting to skip...
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cintune
climber
the Moon and Antarctica
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Mar 24, 2010 - 09:53pm PT
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If I used my real name no one here would know me anyway. Just a mediocre east coast climber with nothing to boast about, but huge respect for all of you who really put it out there.
And I'm not much for supernatural explanations of things, so there's something else that can be fun to talk about.
According to Google, cintune is primarily a misspelling of "continue."
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Mar 24, 2010 - 09:55pm PT
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I'm starting to re-think my earlier opinion.
Maybe I should start using my real name - along with birthdate, gotta make sure they get the right me.
That way, anybody looking for real dirt on me has to sift through this mountain of work first and will eventually give up before finding anything good.
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Watusi
Social climber
Newport, OR
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Mar 24, 2010 - 10:13pm PT
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I'm with you Kris so I'm coming clean!
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Mar 24, 2010 - 10:38pm PT
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Ghost (David Harris),
Sorry I didn't see your name in your first post. My apologies.
On the other issue, I think enough people have provided legit reasons as to why they feel uncomfortable providing their names. You don't have to agree with it but perhaps you should give them a little credit for making decisions that work for them rather than everyone else on this site.
If I ever meet anyone here that I haven't already met or don't know, I'll gladly use my name. But as far as the web goes, it'll have to remain Steve S.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Boulder, CO
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Mar 24, 2010 - 10:39pm PT
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Bob D'Antonio here.
I agree with Kris, this is a very small world here at ST...show respect and be accountable for your posts.
For the record...I show little to no respect to trolls. You know who you are.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Mar 24, 2010 - 10:44pm PT
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GDavis and my face? Rocket science would not be needed. Aren't you a lawyer? lol.
I don't think that people need to put their full name, middle initial and blood type. Just a clue to who the heck they are. Even a picture these days can at least connect a face to who you are talking to.
True, if you are a lawyer, people will probably do anything to attack your character. But they could find you here. Randy Vogel is well known.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Mar 24, 2010 - 10:45pm PT
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for afew years the park service left my "pyro mess" on the internet.
i'd tell people to look me up and all they could say was f*#k'n pyro!
i'm a good guy!
the name is Ryan Mattock.
happy to climb with you yesterday Kris!
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Mar 24, 2010 - 10:57pm PT
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As long as you are cool with posting your names would it to too bold to ask for social security numbers and your mother's maiden name?
No special reason (taxes) just thought it would help me get to know the real you ;)
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Mar 24, 2010 - 11:13pm PT
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I think enough people have provided legit reasons as to why they feel uncomfortable providing their names. You don't have to agree with it but perhaps you should give them a little credit for making decisions that work for them rather than everyone else on this site.
I don't disagree at all. And if you go back and read my post that got you riled you'll see that I said that there.
What I find disagreeable, cowardly even, is to say nasty things while hiding behind an alias. Can't recall you ever doing that in the past. But there are certainly some who do. Outing them is a public service.
D
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