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Jaybro

Social climber

Wolf City, Wyoming

Feb 10, 2010 - 10:12pm PT

Blue, of course we each have to find our own way but I'll side with the Swedes over the Italians, any day!

I, myself, go to my own church.

dktem

Trad climber

Temecula

Feb 11, 2010 - 11:02am PT

Jan,

I don't know how widespread the organization is, but it wouldn't surprise me if there was a relationship between the ones I know and the ones you know.

The open air church shows Mary wearing a sari and has a picture of St. Francis next to a chakra chart.

This image captures one aspect the philosophy of Father Robert pretty well.

But when he's performing ceremonies (weddings, etc.), he's just an "ordinary" Catholic priest. So the family never has to know... ;)

Lissiehoya

climber

Saint Louis, MO

Mar 12, 2010 - 01:25am PT

Not to resurrect this thread, but although the White Robed Monks of St. Benedict may *look* Catholic, they... well, aren't. They, in fact, appear to be tied to the Jansenist heresy of the seventeenth century, especially since historians generally accept that the Jansenists set themselves up in Utrecht after they left France.

bluering

Trad climber

Santa Clara, Ca.

Topic Author's Reply - Mar 12, 2010 - 02:16am PT

Interesting.

You claim to know Dirka and are from MO? Do you live here now?

The child will be baptistised locally...Lutheran.

Lissiehoya

climber

Saint Louis, MO

Mar 12, 2010 - 02:20am PT

I'm not from Saint Louis, that's just where I live now. I'm doing my PhD at Saint Louis University.

I met Dirka when I lived in Berkeley and I have the ring on my finger to prove it. :) (He's going to get mad that I'm "outing" him on ST.)

I'm actually from Massachusetts.

I'm glad that you found a place to baptize your child that works for you.

bluering

Trad climber

Santa Clara, Ca.

Topic Author's Reply - Mar 12, 2010 - 02:24am PT

Cheers, lissiehoya, thanks for responding. God bless ya in your travels with Dirka.

Thanks and good luck to you.

Mighty Hiker

climber

Vancouver, B.C.

Mar 12, 2010 - 02:30am PT

Trying unsuccessfully to figure out lissie's remarks about the Benedictines. They are one of the oldest monastic orders in the Roman Catholic church, founded by saint Benedict in the 6th century C.E. I believe that there are some small Benedictine orders that aren't part of that church. Is that what you're referring to?

One thing I studied was medieval history, so interesting stuff.

Rob_James

Mountain climber

Aoraki/Mt. Cook Village, New Zealand

Mar 12, 2010 - 02:31am PT

You considered Blue that the congregation which rejected you might have done so after considering your many ignorant and insensitive opinion posts on supertopo?

You're a soft-bellied, omniscient dilettante. Seriously, you don't need a church. Just go hide under your bed.

Lissiehoya

climber

Saint Louis, MO

Mar 12, 2010 - 02:31am PT

I was talking specifically about the group that was linked above.

These guys: http://www.wrmosb.org/

Jan

Mountain climber

Okinawa, Japan

Mar 12, 2010 - 02:32am PT

Lissiehoya-

The Benedictines wear a variety of colors of robes, so I don't think you can conclude that any of them with white robes is a Jansenist (Calvinist) in disguise. You have to go deeper than that.

Meanwhile, here is the web page of Bede Griffiths who happens to wear and orange robe.

http://www.bedegriffiths.com/

bluering

Trad climber

Santa Clara, Ca.

Topic Author's Reply - Mar 12, 2010 - 02:33am PT

You're a soft-bellied, omniscient dilettante. Seriously, you don't need a church. Just go hide under your bed.

F*#k off!

And, God bless you, heathen.

Lissiehoya

climber

Saint Louis, MO

Mar 12, 2010 - 02:33am PT

Jansenists aren't Calvinists and it has nothing to do with their robes... So... I'm not sure what you're talking about.

bluering

Trad climber

Santa Clara, Ca.

Topic Author's Reply - Mar 12, 2010 - 02:38am PT

Geez, Lissiehoya, I'd like to talk to you around a fire...Where did you pick this stuff up? Are you American, Eastern European?

I'm intrigued.

Rob_James

Mountain climber

Aoraki/Mt. Cook Village, New Zealand

Mar 12, 2010 - 02:43am PT

Blue:

Bonatti is my god; and you are my whipping boy.

You're such an easy target - marsh-mellow dudette. Give unto others - you gotta take it if you're gonna give it.

You're a bully and I'd like to teach you a little about respect towards others. So get yourself in shape because it'd be great to rumble someday soon, and I need you to be worthy.

Lissiehoya

climber

Saint Louis, MO

Mar 12, 2010 - 02:45am PT

Totally American. :)

The short version of the story is a combo of my undergrad study at Georgetown and my study abroad in France got me interested in the Jansenists and now I'm studying "historical theology" at SLU with a focus on seventeenth and eighteenth century France, but of course they're making me take the whole series of Church history--early, medieval, early modern, late modern--so I know a bit about a lot of other stuff too. :)

As for the campfire, Dirka and I are still planning to do our annual JTree trip every year, otherwise I *hear* there's some good camping in Missouri...

bluering

Trad climber

Santa Clara, Ca.

Topic Author's Reply - Mar 12, 2010 - 02:48am PT

Are you f*#king crazy? What does that mean? You wanna fight?

If you like to worship darkness, go ahead, loser. How am I a bully? Are you insecure in your beliefs?

You seem unstable.